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01-04-2017, 08:37 AM
#121
Why are you talking to yourself?
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01-04-2017, 10:08 AM
#122
sorry first post here, but why would you want to harden soft tires? to pass a durometer test?
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01-04-2017, 12:00 PM
#123
Originally Posted by harborfreighthero
sorry first post here, but why would you want to harden soft tires? to pass a durometer test?
Good question, If you had a soft 20 rule and worried about wear. Harder tires flex less, flex causes heat and heat causes wear. Cooking the 20 would reduce flex, therefore reducing wear.
Grooving and sypeing creates more edges, but also flex. Sometimes you want more edges and don't want to give up wear. Especially for tracks that don't clean off easily.
For the black ice tracks, you may want less grooves and more surface area. If it's abrasive, cook it. If not keep them soft. There are 50 million combinations to choose from. It's just fine tuning the tire.
From the hints we got from the Dream's illegal tires, these guys didn't expect to get busted for something missing. They probably just cooked something out of them. or got a special run tire from distributor. Too bad the rule said must meet the benchmark, not no added chemicals.
I don't think anyone really knows, what rules are best for the sport. If someone has a better idea, it should be allowed. If that idea costs too much or is dangerous, cut it. I don't think every racer should have to drive a cookie cutter car and turn the racing into NASCAR snooze fests.
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01-04-2017, 12:56 PM
#124
Originally Posted by Bubstr
Good question, If you had a soft 20 rule and worried about wear. Harder tires flex less, flex causes heat and heat causes wear. Cooking the 20 would reduce flex, therefore reducing wear.Grooving and sypeing creates more edges, but also flex. Sometimes you want more edges and don't want to give up wear. Especially for tracks that don't clean off easily.For the black ice tracks, you may want less grooves and more surface area. If it's abrasive, cook it. If not keep them soft. There are 50 million combinations to choose from. It's just fine tuning the tire.From the hints we got from the Dream's illegal tires, these guys didn't expect to get busted for something missing. They probably just cooked something out of them. or got a special run tire from distributor. Too bad the rule said must meet the benchmark, not no added chemicals.I don't think anyone really knows, what rules are best for the sport. If someone has a better idea, it should be allowed. If that idea costs too much or is dangerous, cut it. I don't think every racer should have to drive a cookie cutter car and turn the racing into NASCAR snooze fests.
Thank you for the explanation. I agree that its hard to come up with the perfect solution, and also we don't want the rules to make it cookie cutter and have to drive a cookie cutter car. With the grinding and siping I see sometimes, I wonder who actually knows what it does or if its just to do what the next guy is doing. Not in the big time DLM world or anything but the local racer, I'm sure the big time guys know more of what they are doing or what they are trying to achieve than the local guy
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01-04-2017, 03:01 PM
#125
Originally Posted by harborfreighthero
sorry first post here, but why would you want to harden soft tires? to pass a durometer test?
Yeah first post my A$$..... Maybe first post on a new user name...... Just sayin
If you can't race it or take it to bed! It ain't worth having!
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01-04-2017, 03:14 PM
#126
Originally Posted by harborfreighthero
sorry first post here, but why would you want to harden soft tires? to pass a durometer test?
Everyone has to have a first post at some point, no need to be sorry about it...
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01-04-2017, 04:42 PM
#127
Originally Posted by Josh Bayko
Why are you talking to yourself?
You were a little early on this one Josh.........I think it fits now......see above
I do like the screenname though, pretty creative.
Where is the move over flag when you need it?????
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01-04-2017, 05:37 PM
#128
I have never posted here before and just found this site and reading about two weeks ago. Not trying to stir anyone on here.
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01-04-2017, 07:27 PM
#129
Originally Posted by harborfreighthero
I have never posted here before and just found this site and reading about two weeks ago. Not trying to stir anyone on here.
I apologize then harborfreight just seemed like your point of posting here the first time was something alot of us had seen and heard before from a certain poster before is all... Enjoy and have some fun up around here bud...
If you can't race it or take it to bed! It ain't worth having!
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01-04-2017, 08:17 PM
#130
Originally Posted by harborfreighthero
I have never posted here before and just found this site and reading about two weeks ago. Not trying to stir anyone on here.
Thats my job !!! Welcome to 4m hfhero!
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01-04-2017, 09:13 PM
#131
Still say the screenname is great........I can relate.
Where is the move over flag when you need it?????
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01-04-2017, 10:26 PM
#132
Originally Posted by Barbecueboy
You were a little early on this one Josh.........I think it fits now......see above
I do like the screenname though, pretty creative.
No, Litey had one post, than another answering himself under the same screen name. He clearly deleted them after I called him out on it.
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01-04-2017, 10:53 PM
#133
yes that's right the quote I wanted did 'nt come thru, it happens
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01-05-2017, 08:06 AM
#134
Originally Posted by calverton
yes that's right the quote I wanted did 'nt come thru, it happens
Everybody gets tripped up every now and agin......no big deal
Where is the move over flag when you need it?????
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01-05-2017, 09:26 AM
#135
Originally Posted by Nasty55
I apologize then harborfreight just seemed like your point of posting here the first time was something alot of us had seen and heard before from a certain poster before is all... Enjoy and have some fun up around here bud...
No worries, I just read through the thread and decided to finally make an account to ask some questions
Originally Posted by SLIDING SIDEWAYS
Thats my job !!! Welcome to 4m hfhero!
Thanks man!
Originally Posted by Barbecueboy
Still say the screenname is great........I can relate.
haha had a harbor freight flyer right in front of me and was making a list of the cool top shelf quality (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) I don't need in it haha and it came to me!
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01-06-2017, 06:12 AM
#136
Originally Posted by zyoung25
You do realize that you're arguing with someone that claims they know a lot of what goes on at planet zero right?
I did forget about that, lol... Maybe that's the local champ he's referring to? I'm still waiting for him to tell me the melting point of irony...
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01-06-2017, 08:28 AM
#137
Originally Posted by Necrosis
I did forget about that, lol... Maybe that's the local champ he's referring to? I'm still waiting for him to tell me the melting point of irony...
Hell be on sooner than latter w some news.
Hes prolly going to race shops talking to teams and drivers for the latest info.
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