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Dynamic toe out
Whats the ideal dynamic toe out at full compression?
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Originally Posted by ZERO25
Whats the ideal dynamic toe out at full compression?
On the straight? Mid corner? When you drop the lf to turn like an anchor?
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we bump the rt out .050 per 2 inches of travel.......
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Originally Posted by MasterSbilt_Racer
On the straight? Mid corner? When you drop the lf to turn like an anchor?
Mid corner......that's all ive ever been concerned with.
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Originally Posted by ZERO25
Mid corner......that's all ive ever been concerned with.
A lot of these car follow one tire or the other depending on rear steer and tire loads, or an imaginary point in between.
It's much more complicated than the question. Mid corner on or off the fuel can have a huge impact on lf tire load. If it has 50# on it, who cars where the lf points?
Last edited by MasterSbilt_Racer; 05-13-2020 at 08:45 AM.
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Originally Posted by ZERO25
Mid corner......that's all ive ever been concerned with.
3" atleast. You're going to Belle Claire speedway this weekend right?
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Originally Posted by Austin34471
3" atleast. You're going to Belle Claire speedway this weekend right?
According to Mbr, I guess it don't matter!
Why not 4? lol
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Originally Posted by ZERO25
According to Mbr, I guess it don't matter!
Why not 4? lol
At alot of points on the track, it really doesn't. We line the rear up with the rf dynamically and use the rr quarter for a rudder. The lf is pointed at the infield (compared to the direction of the chassis) doing nothing. Then you slow for the corner, it grabs and pulls the nose down the hill. Then you chase the rf again. I used to think all xr1 cars were pushing like a dump truck when I watched them from the infield.
Last edited by MasterSbilt_Racer; 05-13-2020 at 06:12 PM.
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We line the rear up with the rf dynamically
Perfectly?, as in, if I run a string down the rf sidewalls, it will contact the rr's sidewalls perfectly???
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Originally Posted by ZERO25
We line the rear up with the rf dynamically
Perfectly?, as in, if I run a string down the rf sidewalls, it will contact the rr's sidewalls perfectly???
No. More like a hacked up tricycle.
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Originally Posted by MasterSbilt_Racer
No. More like a hacked up tricycle.
My string doesn't work well with them 60 degree angles! lol
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I PM’d you. If I posted what ours is on bump most would laugh and I would lose my connection
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There are fast cars with stupid Ackerman too. (Shrug)
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Originally Posted by MasterSbilt_Racer
There are fast cars with stupid Ackerman too. (Shrug)
Sounds like its not worth the time to work on mechanical grip!
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Originally Posted by ZERO25
Sounds like its not worth the time to work on mechanical grip!
That's two totally different things. There isn't a car on the track where the toe is optimized all the way around the track. We are just now trying to optimize load at a couple of places.
And people are just beginning to grasp the concept that antisquat under acceleration is prosquat during deceleration.
Last edited by MasterSbilt_Racer; 05-14-2020 at 07:49 PM.
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There isn't a car on the track where the toe is optimized all the way around the track. We are just now trying to optimize load at a couple of places.
That's why I was asking what is the trend these days at mid corner.
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