Thornton got the shaft tonight

[over4T]

Lot of good points made, especially zero25's and the comments about the transponder receiving cable location. One touring group we run with recently changed transponder locations on the cars from front at lower A arm to midplate and there are flaws with each. A inch or two either way can cost or give you a win.

One of our regular haunts last year saw a guy get his first sprint car main win taken away because their wire was buried coming out of turn 4, where he was second on the last lap, instead of at the start/finish line where it should be and where he definitely won by about half a car.

Transponders are great for most lineups getting sorted out on restarts but the old fashioned human scorers and/or a camera at the finish line are better for determining the winner.

[ImCryn2]

Transponders are mounted in the front.

Either the rear end tube or the engine mid plate. It doesn't really matter when they are mounted in the same place on each car.

[TS FAN]

Sure thought Thornton won it. But I have no way of debating the out come. Really like this guy, and maybe he can get them back tonight. Great race

[jcotton02]

Transponders are mounted in the front.

[golddirt]

Exactly zero !!!

[ZERO25]

The problem with transponders is theyre mounted on the rearend…..approx. 15 ft from the front of the nose!

A car 1 mph faster can travel 1.46 feet in 1 second!

[Jking24]

The problem is the series run at so many different tracks that it is tough for them to have somthing consistent. If their was a line in the wall and a camera dead in line like eldora it be one thing but alot of tracks don't have this so the rules for the series are when in question they go to the transponder and that is official. Doesent realy matter where the loop is located if that is deemed the line by the rules that's it. This is why they have a rule on the placement of the transponder because it will be the decision maker. They checked the transponder positions before they declared a winner. I wanted to see rtj win as much as anybody but he didn't. Bottom line great race great finish

[reid boys]

DOD has a picture, I wonder if that's the finish?

[ImCryn2]

.007 of a second. Using the eyeball test, the guy with a longer front bumper will win every time.

[lurker]

Eyeball test watching the cars showed Thornton winning

At the 3:41 mark - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-2cfwOwIoQ

No way to tell from that angle, flagstand is located down towards turn 1. Also appears that small track flagstand is on the inside and large track stand is on the outside. How timing cable is buried in relation to those two stands would mean a lot. Guess whoever buried it could answer that. Good to see the tin foil hat conspiracy nut jobs out in force.

I was simply pointing out at the 3:41 mark the announcer made the same comment that EDERDS made. Sorry I wasn’t specific and I made it hard for you comprehend.

[ImCryn2]

Transponders are the most accurate way, there is no personal judgement involved. I get it, Thornton was on the losing end last night, but I'm guessing at some point he has been or will be on the other end one day.

[bleedblue55]

A few years back, Florence had something like happen. The cable wasnt exactly straight (at that time) and the win went the car that appeared to run 2nd by eye ball and video. I think it was Cody Mahoney and Jason Jameson if I remember right. Jameson was declared the winner because that how the transponders read.

Florence later came out and said their transponder pick up cable was not exactly straight in line with the flagstand.

You might be on to something here.

Been to a few tracks early and seen them bury new timing cable, not exactly a GPS accurate transit set up, more like pick and shovel.

[WildBill32]

I know it's early in the season. But, this race could be in the top five for race of the year. Great race!

[zyoung25]

Often the transponder cable is not buried under the track, right at the flag stand... Some tracks are 3-6 feet either way.
Not sure if that is the case or not, but...

A few years back, Florence had something like happen. The cable wasnt exactly straight (at that time) and the win went the car that appeared to run 2nd by eye ball and video. I think it was Cody Mahoney and Jason Jameson if I remember right. Jameson was declared the winner because that how the transponders read.

Florence later came out and said their transponder pick up cable was not exactly straight in line with the flagstand.

You might be on to something here.

[bleedblue55]

Heard bloomer was actually running big track tonight just testing can someone confirm or deny

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