is central ky racing about history!!!!

[HEAVY DUTY]

hmmm just wondering what track your getting at i have a good idea when you mention the restrooms and stands

No need to name names. I just thought a few suggestions might make the track promoters think about some of the things that might help them get cars and people. I want to see them all be successful.Most promoters have been racers, and think like racers. They need to think like the average person who doesnt go to the race track every week. The average person is who they need in the grandstands to pay the bills. Racers and hardcore people are gonna be there and know what is goin on anyway. If you wanna get women to the track that arent involved with a car, you better have clean restrooms, good concessions, comfortable and safe bleachers and not have dust that gets in there makeup. There are lots of tracks with substandard bathroom facilities. There are lots of tracks that have bleachers that are splintering.When the average person goes to a movie, the popcorn is usually hot,the facilities are better than a dirty portajohn, they dont get splinters sittin on the seats and it cost less to get in. That is what the racetracks are up against. They have to entertain not just race.

[MOD434]

Geez Donnie , I swear I been to a track very similar to what you're describing .............jus can't put my finger on it like you can't either . LOL Please think long and hard about your own facility track promoters and take the steps that Donnie speaks of to attract more fans because we all know them dam women gotta give us guys permission to visit your fine facility or not . ha ha

[bleedsbluer2]

No need to name names. I just thought a few suggestions might make the track promoters think about some of the things that might help them get cars and people. I want to see them all be successful.Most promoters have been racers, and think like racers. They need to think like the average person who doesnt go to the race track every week. The average person is who they need in the grandstands to pay the bills. Racers and hardcore people are gonna be there and know what is goin on anyway. If you wanna get women to the track that arent involved with a car, you better have clean restrooms, good concessions, comfortable and safe bleachers and not have dust that gets in there makeup. There are lots of tracks with substandard bathroom facilities. There are lots of tracks that have bleachers that are splintering.When the average person goes to a movie, the popcorn is usually hot,the facilities are better than a dirty portajohn, they dont get splinters sittin on the seats and it cost less to get in. That is what the racetracks are up against. They have to entertain not just race.

donnie you ever been to 191 some reason what your saying and what ive seen up there dont comprehend that place is packed every saturday night they have porta potties they cooked their burgers and dogs outside on grill and serve it the way it should be stands that seat maybe 75 folks the rest of the people are everywhere on hills on rocks on dirt ground and trust me dirty as hell you look like a colored folk when you leave but that place is packed the reason 10 bucks to get in no matter how much they pay out

[HEAVY DUTY]

donnie you ever been to 191 some reason what your saying and what ive seen up there dont comprehend that place is packed every saturday night they have porta potties they cooked their burgers and dogs outside on grill and serve it the way it should be stands that seat maybe 75 folks the rest of the people are everywhere on hills on rocks on dirt ground and trust me dirty as hell you look like a colored folk when you leave but that place is packed the reason 10 bucks to get in no matter how much they pay out

10dollars to get in, and 40 4cyl cars. That is what gets the local people involved. Most late model teams travel a distance and race where the money is and bring just a few people with them. The lower classes are usually local people that have their family and freinds go with them, which puts a lot of people in the stands. 191 really tries hard to get their lower classes. How many big late model or modified races have they had since opening 3 or 4 years ago? ( 2 or 3 I think) They pay really well for the weekly shows and charge a fair price to get in. The bathroom and concession deal there is because of the county laws making it nearly impossible for them to comply, so they havnt built the bathrooms yet, but I would venture to say that the portapotties are cleaned out every week. They dont have alot of other things to do in the immediate area, like malls, restaraunts, and movie theaters.

[Ben_Diesel]

I have two more things to add. If promoters want fans to continue coming, they're going to have to learn to prep the tracks. Only been able to catch one race this year and was very disappointed at the track prep as soon as I walked through the gate. They had an excellent field of cars, but I only seen maybe three cars passed all night. And the dust was probably as bad as I had ever seen there. The other thing is, don't drag out the show all night. The paticular race I went to didn't get heats started to around 10. At 20 mins after 1, they were half way through the late model feature. I had to be at work at 6 am, so needless to say, I didn't stick around for the rest of the show.

[t3r3e3]

I have two more things to add. If promoters want fans to continue coming, they're going to have to learn to prep the tracks. Only been able to catch one race this year and was very disappointed at the track prep as soon as I walked through the gate. They had an excellent field of cars, but I only seen maybe three cars passed all night. And the dust was probably as bad as I had ever seen there. The other thing is, don't drag out the show all night. The paticular race I went to didn't get heats started to around 10. At 20 mins after 1, they were half way through the late model feature. I had to be at work at 6 am, so needless to say, I didn't stick around for the rest of the show.

I'm guessing you went to the last special at Southern Ohio...

[jawbreaker]

Hopefully, that wont happen. Atomic was a great place back in the day. It got bought by the wrong people. Maybe the racetracks around here can learn from history and make changes to help rather than digging their grave deeper all the time.A track cannot stay open running 2 or 3 big shows and then shutting down the rest of the time. They need to look at where the money is paid out verses how much money is brought in. 2/3 of the purse goes to the late models at most tracks. Do they bring in 2/3 of the money unless it is a big show.If you run a big show every week, is it still a special show to the average fan? Big races need to be something different, with different cars and drivers than the normal crowd. People pack the truck pulls at the fair, because it only happens once a year.If they had them every week, the only people who would go would be the ones involved with the trucks. The tracks have got to get more involvement in the lower classes that dont get paid alot, and dont cost alot to race. I love to watch super lates as good as the next guy, but they have evolved into a money pit that cannot be sustained, and the modifieds arent far behind. The tracks have got to put new people in the stands that havnt been there before. Advertising on 4m and other racing websites doesnt get to those people. If they show up to watch a race one week when the weather is good and the track is shut down, they will assume the track isnt running anymore and will never go back. If they do show up and the bathrooms have sewage 3 inches deep running out of the bathrooms or the porta potties havent been cleaned out in a month, and the bleachers are falling thru, are they gonna come back? It costs a lot of money to fix all the bleachers, but they arent but 10% full, so why not fix 10% to start with and block the rest off. Why would a racer go hit the same rock sticking out of the track tearing his stuff up and gashing his tires, when 20 minutes and a sledge hammer would have fixed the problem. Promoters have to work to get fans and cars. There is more to promoting a track than opening the gate on race night.

WOW!!! Well Spoken!!!!