Respect replaced by Selfishness...

[Nasty55]

No school here.
You?

No school here either... Although we do have a Wal-Mart right across the road from oour house where I watch similar things happen with the idiots out in the parking lot as i see happen on here as well...

[SLIDING SIDEWAYS]

No school here either... Although we do have a Wal-Mart right across the road from oour house where I watch similar things happen with the idiots out in the parking lot as i see happen on here as well...

Ok well then its nothing new to you then. You prolly see alot being a walmart greeter. I see you are doing better as your back to your old self.

[HEAVY DUTY]

In the last week I've seen 2 incidents involving younger drivers that disappointed me. The first was Booby Price at the N/S race and the worst part was his fans defending him and applauding his maneuver. One fan even described the move as, "graceful"... Graceful, really? What would you consider a slap in the face? A kind gesture perhaps. Now Booby throwing sliders, taking racers noses off and parking on the cushion is his MO, thats just how he thinks you should race. Its also why his car rarely comes home with a quarter panel on the RR, I'm not sure why they bother putting one back on it. Make no mistake, the young man is fast, talented even, but the disrespect he drives with, "feeding people the RR" every week, that isn't cool.
Boo on you Booby Price.

The second incident was with one of my favorite drivers, Jonathan Davenport at Bulls Gap. First he had a physical incident with Bloomer that even though I watched it a few times I can't determine from that camera angle what exactly happened. Later on though, JD is leading and JO gets a run on the outside. JO gets all the way up to JD's door on the outside as they approach a lap car at the end of the back stretch. Instead of lifting or going to the bottom, JD literally drives through the lap car... What? The lap car didn't even know he was there yet, so drilling him at full song was what looked like an act of desperation or bullying...
Not cool JD, not cool. Nobody likes a bully.

To me both of the incidents were indicative of a wider problem in motorsports and our society at large, the younger generation doesn't see anyone else as having any rights, its all about them and their young gun status. Driving through the field like a bulldozer is not a demonstration of skill, but an extreme display of disrespect for other racers and themselves. This is not how to race, no it absolutely is not.

Sure we love seeing them sparking off the outside wall, throwing caution to the wind, taking chances. But driving like no one else should be there is wrong. Sometimes there are situations where you must back off or use skill instead throwing elbows. Both these guys are plenty skilled enough and have the best equipment around, that they should be making better decisions behind the wheel, period.

Its okay to be hungry, but you don't get to eat my hand.

I totally agree. Being an old racer, I remember drivers respecting each other moreso then they do now. Rubbing is racing. Playing chicken with racecars isn't. Young drivers make mistakes and older drivers usually let it go ( for awhile). The two drivers mentioned are awesome, but get caught up in the heat of the moment, and get in over their heads sometime. It makes for exciting racing, but it grates on the nerves of the guys that are lifting for them. Eventually, they will quit lifting, and equipment gets torn up. Then they will be called dirty, for taking up for themselves and not lifting. I always say, the steering wheel turns both ways.

[Bubstr]

It's NOT a "move over" flag. It is merely to warn the back markers that the leaders are approaching. It warns them to hold their line. They are not required to "get out of the way". They simply should not change their line so the leaders can pass safely without any sudden change of lines.

I'll never understand why the leaders cant just pass them clean (if their soooo slow). If you get "picked" like JD was about to do, that's part of it. Sorry for your luck. No way should a leader be able to dump a lap car and retain his spot. If you can't pass a back marker clean you don't deserve the lead.

Why a different rule on "dumping" a car depending on what place they are in??? If you take a car out on purpose, you go to the tail.

Hell, if that's the case, why can't drivers just punt every car between them and the front? What's the difference?

Your quite right about the hold your line flag. Most problems develop when lapped traffic decides to block. With the speed differences, it usually ends badly for one or both. That is why, they ask them to hold their line. The smart thing to do is let the leader by and resume racing for position. Your slower racing against someone, than running a fast line to catch the one in front of you.

That lapped car that Davenport Dumped didn't hold his line. He dropped to the middle that took away all the lines available. It happened in a spot that was hard to hit your brake. So who is at fault? JD for racing hard or the guy that didn't observe the lay over flag?

[Barbecueboy]

go find some toasted raviloi and pork steaks PROVEL CHEESE ST LOUIS STYLE PIZZA GOOEY BUTTER CAKE and think about it

I ran across something called ooey gooey butter cakes at our local piggly wiggly......was one of the best dessert items I think I've ever eaten...

[SLIDING SIDEWAYS]

Your quite right about the hold your line flag. Most problems develop when lapped traffic decides to block. With the speed differences, it usually ends badly for one or both. That is why, they ask them to hold their line. The smart thing to do is let the leader by and resume racing for position. Your slower racing against someone, than running a fast line to catch the one in front of you.

That lapped car that Davenport Dumped didn't hold his line. He dropped to the middle that took away all the lines available. It happened in a spot that was hard to hit your brake. So who is at fault? JD for racing hard or the guy that didn't observe the lay over flag?

I always thought it was a move over flag at least thats what it was called. It makes sence to hold your own line as leaders will hope you stay in same line and not mess them up.

Never thought of it that way.

[ALLDIRT]

You have to know who to bump and who not to bump

Let the bumpin begin . and when its your boy , dont come cryin . find a new
band wagon to jump on . its just a slam job , sorry slide job.

[birky time]

did I hear some speedway is doing away with "slidejob" making a rule you cant do it

[Highside Hustler25]

Dont fool yourself Gary on some of them names you posted my friend! Harvick yes he is a nice guy and very personable But would dump his Grandma if he thought he could get away with it! Kyle Busch still considered a BadBoy from his past and would put a fender to someone if he thought he was wronged and could get away with it! Brad Keseloski Just a plain excuse maker when he fuks up but he is fast and getting it done! Carl Edwards Nice guy but to nice needs to put a fender to someone because he gets used up to much which is why he will always be the modern day Dale Jarrett (Journyman) Racer! Good guys for the sport but just about done with their career Little E because of this concussion syndrum... Jimmy Johnson 40 yrs old and has nothing left to prove why risk getting hurt or worse! Smoke This is his last yr racing nascar going back to his roots Dirttrack Racing and promoting his tracks! Denny Hamlin just about done even though he isnt that old because of Back injuries.... Greg Biffle Age and cant hang with the new breed coming out plus i dont think he has eve really caught onto the new cars of today... Now these are all just my opinions of what i see happening in the not so far off future.... Nascar does need a badboybut Brad Keseloswki isnt the one they need so maybe Bobby Pierce would make a good fit in that catagory... he has the talent.... he has the charisma.... he definately isnt scared to throw a fender to someone veteran or young gun...He has the Bad attitude... He has that young good looks that all the lady fans are looking for as well so yeah he would make it if he had the right opportunity

All good facts Nasty except for one. Nothing wrong with the Biff. It's the owner that hasn't caught on. Ole Jack has become an embarrassment to Ford.

[nuff said]

Ask Keseloski wheter or not Edwards will put a fender on you.That ride he sent him on a couple of years ago toned Brad down a lot for awhile,it seems to be wearing off now.

[Cardirt0]

Dont fool yourself Gary on some of them names you posted my friend! Harvick yes he is a nice guy and very personable But would dump his Grandma if he thought he could get away with it! Kyle Busch still considered a BadBoy from his past and would put a fender to someone if he thought he was wronged and could get away with it! Brad Keseloski Just a plain excuse maker when he fuks up but he is fast and getting it done! Carl Edwards Nice guy but to nice needs to put a fender to someone because he gets used up to much which is why he will always be the modern day Dale Jarrett (Journyman) Racer! Good guys for the sport but just about done with their career Little E because of this concussion syndrum... Jimmy Johnson 40 yrs old and has nothing left to prove why risk getting hurt or worse! Smoke This is his last yr racing nascar going back to his roots Dirttrack Racing and promoting his tracks! Denny Hamlin just about done even though he isnt that old because of Back injuries.... Greg Biffle Age and cant hang with the new breed coming out plus i dont think he has eve really caught onto the new cars of today... Now these are all just my opinions of what i see happening in the not so far off future.... Nascar does need a badboybut Brad Keseloswki isnt the one they need so maybe Bobby Pierce would make a good fit in that catagory... he has the talent.... he has the charisma.... he definately isnt scared to throw a fender to someone veteran or young gun...He has the Bad attitude... He has that young good looks that all the lady fans are looking for as well so yeah he would make it if he had the right opportunity

You may be right BUT he has too get there FIRST.. And the Big teams want Clean.. Plus I think his Dad will get in the way.. Sometimes family hurts more then it helps..Bumping someone and Power sliding some are NOT the same thing...

[Cardirt0]

Ask Keseloski wheter or not Edwards will put a fender on you.That ride he sent him on a couple of years ago toned Brad down a lot for awhile,it seems to be wearing off now.

Now he has the 18 mad at him Not good for him.. 18 WILL pay him back... I hope I have the TV on when it happens....

[Kromulous]

Remember this thread when he gets parked in the wall, and hauled out in a Wagon.

[TS FAN]

If Bloomer would have paid attention to the move over flag, then Bobby would not have had to school him.

[ptown]

Remember this thread when he gets parked in the wall, and hauled out in a Wagon.

I'd pay to see that.