And these guys will run for little cash!
Bloomquist to run A-mod nationals
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he (dillard) looked great at my hometown track last week.
those unfamiliar with modifieds need to explore the usmts website, results, and history. it is a great tour with an entertaining format and a barnstorming schedule that has race teams bouncing from track to track in bunches. locals are welcome and competitive. ringers frequently humbled.
as someone previously mentioned, check out Dirt Knights on YouTube:
Points Standings as of August 26, 2016
Rank No. Driver Points Starts Wins Top 5's Top 10's Earnings
1 12 Jason Hughes 1486 10 2 9 10 $14,450
2 97 Cade Dillard 1470 10 4 8 8 $17,900
3 20 Rodney Sanders 1409 10 1 6 10 $11,900
4 99 Jesse Sobbing 1404 10 6 9 $9,600
5 33z Zack VanderBeek 1384 10 1 6 9 $11,850
6 1st Johnny Scott 1285 10 4 7 $7,550
7 91 Joe Duvall 1225 10 2 $4,925
8 4r Dereck Ramirez 1181 10 3 $4,700
9 2s Stormy Scott 1157 10 2 4 $5,525
10 6 Brock Bauman 1141 10 $3,815
11 4 Cody Bauman 1125 10 1 $4,250
12 37 Mike Jergens 1124 10 3 $3,915
13 22d Daniel Hilsabeck 1121 10 2 $3,730
14 81 Mike Densberger 1117 10 2 $3,640
15 00 Masen Big Eagle 1055 10 1 $2,560
16 99 Jett Big Eagle 1031 10 $1,875
17 12d Scott Drake 999 7 4 $3,640
18 21t Lance Town 994 8 2 $3,050
19 19r Ryan Gustin 907 5 1 3 3 $6,290
20 02 Tanner Mullens 752 4 1 $1,390
21 21 Jacob Bleess 711 5 3 $2,215
22 4w Tyler Wolff 661 3 $480
23 69 Lucas Schott 562 2 $300
24 49jr Jake Timm 561 2 $300
25 71 Philip Houston 522 0 $0
26 9 Kevin Rutherford 510 1 $90
26 5 Todd Shute 510 0 $0
26 8 Steve Miller 510 0 $0
29 10 Austin Arneson 508 0 $0
30 01 Joey Galloway 507 0 $0
30 4m Bobby Malchus 507 0 $0
32 60 Dan Ebert 506 1 $775
23 Adam Kates 468 9 $1,345
20rt Ricky Thornton Jr. 375 5 2 2 $3,480
75 Terry Phillips 360 3 1 3 4 $5,900
186 Jeremy Payne 216 2 1 2 $2,440And the days that I keep my gratitude higher than my expectations, well, I have really good days - Ray Wylie Hubbard
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Originally posted by klemmabyna View Posthe (dillard) looked great at my hometown track last week.
those unfamiliar with modifieds need to explore the usmts website, results, and history. it is a great tour with an entertaining format and a barnstorming schedule that has race teams bouncing from track to track in bunches. locals are welcome and competitive. ringers frequently humbled.
as someone previously mentioned, check out Dirt Knights on YouTube:
Points Standings as of August 26, 2016
Rank No. Driver Points Starts Wins Top 5's Top 10's Earnings
1 12 Jason Hughes 1486 10 2 9 10 $14,450
2 97 Cade Dillard 1470 10 4 8 8 $17,900
3 20 Rodney Sanders 1409 10 1 6 10 $11,900
4 99 Jesse Sobbing 1404 10 6 9 $9,600
5 33z Zack VanderBeek 1384 10 1 6 9 $11,850
6 1st Johnny Scott 1285 10 4 7 $7,550
7 91 Joe Duvall 1225 10 2 $4,925
8 4r Dereck Ramirez 1181 10 3 $4,700
9 2s Stormy Scott 1157 10 2 4 $5,525
10 6 Brock Bauman 1141 10 $3,815
11 4 Cody Bauman 1125 10 1 $4,250
12 37 Mike Jergens 1124 10 3 $3,915
13 22d Daniel Hilsabeck 1121 10 2 $3,730
14 81 Mike Densberger 1117 10 2 $3,640
15 00 Masen Big Eagle 1055 10 1 $2,560
16 99 Jett Big Eagle 1031 10 $1,875
17 12d Scott Drake 999 7 4 $3,640
18 21t Lance Town 994 8 2 $3,050
19 19r Ryan Gustin 907 5 1 3 3 $6,290
20 02 Tanner Mullens 752 4 1 $1,390
21 21 Jacob Bleess 711 5 3 $2,215
22 4w Tyler Wolff 661 3 $480
23 69 Lucas Schott 562 2 $300
24 49jr Jake Timm 561 2 $300
25 71 Philip Houston 522 0 $0
26 9 Kevin Rutherford 510 1 $90
26 5 Todd Shute 510 0 $0
26 8 Steve Miller 510 0 $0
29 10 Austin Arneson 508 0 $0
30 01 Joey Galloway 507 0 $0
30 4m Bobby Malchus 507 0 $0
32 60 Dan Ebert 506 1 $775
23 Adam Kates 468 9 $1,345
20rt Ricky Thornton Jr. 375 5 2 2 $3,480
75 Terry Phillips 360 3 1 3 4 $5,900
186 Jeremy Payne 216 2 1 2 $2,440
Toughest modified series on the planet! klemmabyna they set the bar high for their drivers and Todd and Janet Staley are very helpful to their drivers as well from what ive seen..If you can't race it or take it to bed! It ain't worth having!
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There is a pile of money backing a lot of the USMTS cars. ProPower Motors were here before Late Models. You will also be supprized how close they look to Late Models. They kind of race down the middle of the US. MN, WISC, SD, IA, MISSOURI, KANSAS, TX, LOUISIANA. The best of the best will be there. There general pay to win is $3000 but ocasionally $5000 to $10,000 or more.
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Logic only works with folks that understand it.........just sayin.Originally posted by nuff said View PostSo............If the truck race at Eldora is a lame example because or the equipment,this would mean that Pierce is clearly a better driver than Bloomquist because he was hauling a$$ in the same equipment the last 2 years.Only based on that logic of course.Where is the move over flag when you need it?????
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Thanks TUTY.Originally posted by TUTY View PostThere is a pile of money backing a lot of the USMTS cars. ProPower Motors were here before Late Models. You will also be supprized how close they look to Late Models. They kind of race down the middle of the US. MN, WISC, SD, IA, MISSOURI, KANSAS, TX, LOUISIANA. The best of the best will be there. There general pay to win is $3000 but ocasionally $5000 to $10,000 or more.
As I said before, I was intrigued at the prospect of some of the mod drivers living solely on their race earnings. That statement has since been clarified.
I'll go away and stop hi-jacking this thread now.
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I think the purse money is pretty much the same as it would be in IL, OH, or wherever else for the Mods (that being anything from $400-$500 to win up to $700-$800 at some tracks, usually always around $100 to start for A Mods/IMCA Mods too). From my college in ND I had easy access to about 15 tracks.Originally posted by CIRF View PostInteresting that they are are a headliner in some parts of the country and not in others. What kind of purses do they race for at events where they are the headliner?
I had to be in Southwest Minnesota over Independence Day on business several years back. I got to checking around and found out from some folks who weren't particularly race fans that there was a racing event at the Steele County Fairgrounds in Owatonna. I took it for granted that this event was to be headlined by dirt late models. I decided to attend and somewhat to my surprise the headline division was IMCA mods. I wasn't disappointed by that being the case, just kind of surprised. It was a stand alone event, too. No support classes.
I've also attended several events in Southern California (3 Oval Nationals, 1 Turkey Night Grand Prix and a regular show at Ventura) and Ventura is the only place that had mods and they were one of the support classes. They seemed to be a bit of a different animal than the mods we're used to seeing here in the Midwest.
Is the reason they are the top division in the upper Midwest because there are not enough willing owners of dirt late models and sprint cars to make it feasible for tracks to host them on a regular basis? Gotta' be some reason and you seem to have a handle on the racing scene up there.
River Cities Speedway - 410 Sprints/Late Models top division (B-Mods also race here)
Devils Lake Speedway - B-Mods top division
Geographical Center Speedway - B-Mods top division
Thunder Mountain Speedway - B-Mods top division
Jamestown Speedway - Was A-Mods now IMCA Mods top division
Red River Co-Op Speedway - A-Mods
Nodak Speedway - IMCA Mods
Dacotah Speedway - IMCA Mods
Southwest Speedway - IMCA Mods
Norman County Speedway - IMCA Mods
Buffalo River Raceway - IMCA Mods
Williston Basin Speedway - IMCA Mods
Mclean County Speedway - B-Mods
Sheyenne River Speedway - B-Mods
Viking Speedway - Late Models
I think as far as racing goes they might not be as fast as sprints or late models but people get used to watching the mod racing and then can be disappointed when they see sprints or late models and it ends up being single file or what not. I think the small tires on the mods makes them somewhat racy on any track surface. They are certainly slower but it wasn't uncommon to see them run 3-4 wide weekly where as it is only the best weeks here in Central PA when I get to see a race on a track with SLMs going 3 wide regularly. I think it can be beneficial, as in Central PA where I live the best drivers tend to continue moving up (to SLM, 410s, etc) but back in ND there is nothing for them to move up to in most areas so you have very skilled drivers (who would be running SLM or 410 if they lived elsewhere) running Mods, and so the driver quality is still great. Plus it always looks good when you get 40-50 cars weekly in your top division and some of those Western ND tracks regularly got that.
I think in the IL/OH/IN area it is UMP Mods.
In OH/WV it is AMRA Mods
In WI/MO/KS/MN/Parts of IA it is USRA Mods
In WI/MN/ND/SD/MT/Canada it is Wissota Mods
In IA and pretty much everything West of there it is all IMCA including up in California and all the West coast states. IMCA is starting to expand Eastward too with a bunch of tracks in ND and MN going that direction recently.
I don't expect Late Models or Sprints to take off there any more than I expect Mods to take over here in Sprint country. I think people get used to what they have and are not open to change. There are probably some owners out there with the money to finance big time SLM or 410 operations if they were around there but I think most are just content with the Mods. The LM and 410s are a touring division out that way for the most part and it seems to work out alright.
Thanks,
Jeff.Last edited by W2Racing09; 08-28-2016, 01:23 PM.
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Jeff, I appreciate all the info and clarification. You mentioned how IMCA is the predominant mod sanction West of the Mississippi River. When Ventura Raceway broadcast their races on internet PPV we watched nearly every Saturday night for a couple of seasons and periodically the IMCA mods were the support class to the wingless sprint cars. The mods that we saw occasionally at Ventura seemed to be a whole different animal from what we see in Illinois and Indiana.Originally posted by W2Racing09 View PostI think the purse money is pretty much the same as it would be in IL, OH, or wherever else for the Mods (that being anything from $400-$500 to win up to $700-$800 at some tracks, usually always around $100 to start for A Mods/IMCA Mods too). From my college in ND I had easy access to about 15 tracks.
River Cities Speedway - 410 Sprints/Late Models top division (B-Mods also race here)
Devils Lake Speedway - B-Mods top division
Geographical Center Speedway - B-Mods top division
Thunder Mountain Speedway - B-Mods top division
Jamestown Speedway - Was A-Mods now IMCA Mods top division
Red River Co-Op Speedway - A-Mods
Nodak Speedway - IMCA Mods
Dacotah Speedway - IMCA Mods
Southwest Speedway - IMCA Mods
Norman County Speedway - IMCA Mods
Buffalo River Raceway - IMCA Mods
Williston Basin Speedway - IMCA Mods
Mclean County Speedway - B-Mods
Sheyenne River Speedway - B-Mods
Viking Speedway - Late Models
I think as far as racing goes they might not be as fast as sprints or late models but people get used to watching the mod racing and then can be disappointed when they see sprints or late models and it ends up being single file or what not. I think the small tires on the mods makes them somewhat racy on any track surface. They are certainly slower but it wasn't uncommon to see them run 3-4 wide weekly where as it is only the best weeks here in Central PA when I get to see a race on a track with SLMs going 3 wide regularly. I think it can be beneficial, as in Central PA where I live the best drivers tend to continue moving up (to SLM, 410s, etc) but back in ND there is nothing for them to move up to in most areas so you have very skilled drivers (who would be running SLM or 410 if they lived elsewhere) running Mods, and so the driver quality is still great. Plus it always looks good when you get 40-50 cars weekly in your top division and some of those Western ND tracks regularly got that.
I think in the IL/OH/IN area it is UMP Mods.
In OH/WV it is AMRA Mods
In WI/MO/KS/MN/Parts of IA it is USRA Mods
In WI/MN/ND/SD/MT/Canada it is Wissota Mods
In IA and pretty much everything West of there it is all IMCA including up in California and all the West coast states. IMCA is starting to expand Eastward too with a bunch of tracks in ND and MN going that direction recently.
I don't expect Late Models or Sprints to take off there any more than I expect Mods to take over here in Sprint country. I think people get used to what they have and are not open to change. There are probably some owners out there with the money to finance big time SLM or 410 operations if they were around there but I think most are just content with the Mods. The LM and 410s are a touring division out that way for the most part and it seems to work out alright.
Thanks,
Jeff.
Your example of the mod's putting on great shows in spite of not being nearly as fast as some other types of racecars is a good one. I'm a firm believer in the theory that the fastest cars don't necessarily put on the best show. A very good example of that is the NASCAR trucks at Eldora. I've been to several Kings Royal's and Historical Big One's at Big E along with around 22 or 23 World Hundreds and there have been as many not so good races as good ones among all those. Everyone knows the sprint cars and dirt late models are far faster than the trucks but the trucks seem to consistently put on a great show at Eldora.
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Mods took over in the midwest because racers where no longer willing spend a ridiculous amount of money on a hobby. Most teams are self funded here, IMCA and Wissota have done what they can to keep costs down. Promoters here can also be held responsible as they do not wish to pay out a majority of their purse to the smallest field of cars. Unfortunately the mod thing here has gotten out of hand, too, and entries in the mod fields are quickly dwindling,too.
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