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  • ILL-DIRTDOG
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 750

    #16
    Originally posted by Centeroff View Post
    they have a legitimate case. Especially Scott with the weights and measures. If they actually went in and tested those scales and found them to be 15-61 lbs light that's major problems for fat Tony.
    Tell us why others were not having weight issues on that day then

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    • Hovlane
      Member
      • Jul 2009
      • 89

      #17
      They were heavy enough to overcome the error.

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      • Cardirt0
        Banned
        • May 2007
        • 5271

        #18
        Originally posted by ILL-DIRTDOG View Post
        Tell us why others were not having weight issues on that day then
        Say Bloomer was over by 15 pounds and the scale was off by 30 saying he was 15 under.. next car over by 31 pounds says he is over by 16 pounds... Wrong is is WRONG Over or not...Why should the driver have too make up for what they say Is wrong when it Not...

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        • old fan
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          • Jan 2016
          • 4191

          #19
          Track scales prevail , go across the scales early inthe night and adjust your car accordingly

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          • old fan
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            • Jan 2016
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            #20
            Originally posted by centeroff View Post
            they have a legitimate case. Especially scott with the weights and measures. If they actually went in and tested those scales and found them to be 15-61 lbs light that's major problems for fat tony.
            track scales prevail

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            • BTExpress
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2015
              • 1214

              #21
              And how do you think this lawsuit is good long term for DLM racing???? It could be the beginning of the end if the driver's prevail.

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              • old fan
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                • Jan 2016
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                #22
                As far as the scales they have nothing read the rules in dirtcar ump 15.6

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                • old fan
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                  • Jan 2016
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                  #23
                  Originally posted by btexpress View Post
                  and how do you think this lawsuit is good long term for dlm????
                  exactly esp about the weight rule that explains everything

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                  • Cardirt0
                    Banned
                    • May 2007
                    • 5271

                    #24
                    How do you fix this cars must be 3250 pounds...You can be up too 49 pounds lite.. and still win... say you are 3225 pound and the scales are off by 25 pounds you lose. if you 3226 pounds and the scale is off by 25 you win...Its called give and take...

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                    • Cardirt0
                      Banned
                      • May 2007
                      • 5271

                      #25
                      Originally posted by BTExpress View Post
                      And how do you think this lawsuit is good long term for DLM racing???? It could be the beginning of the end if the driver's prevail.
                      No read my post 24 .. They just need too change the rules to a give and take and the drivers need too say Yes I can live with that...

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                      • Latemodel59
                        Member
                        • May 2007
                        • 51

                        #26
                        Originally posted by ILL-DIRTDOG View Post
                        Tell us why others were not having weight issues on that day then
                        Maybe they chose to be 30 to 60 pounds heavy to avoid potential light scale issues or perhaps they weighed their cars and understood exactly what weight needed added. That doesn't mean a car that was potentially 3200 exactly should be ruled illegal. If your going to pay $100,000 to win and base it on your scales they had better comply with local and state requirements. Not a Bloomer or Tony fan but if the scales are measuring light against a certified standard it's a real problem. Lab can't identify any illegal substance and 2 samples from same tire have different results, you tell me how that is conclusive proof. I have no doubt 90% of the field treat their tires with something otherwise you would not see so many wrapped tires in the pits. However if your going to fine and suspend people you need to have conclusive proof. I work with labs and trying to compare tire samples that could have hundreds of different Mfg dates and material mixes against one master is not stasticly possible. I am not defending any of these guys but if your going to slander somebody you better have proof approve reproach but that's only the view of a lowly back filler not a top team.

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                        • old fan
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                          • Jan 2016
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                          #27
                          track scales prevail

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                          • old fan
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                            • Jan 2016
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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Cardirt0 View Post
                            How do you fix this cars must be 3250 pounds...You can be up too 49 pounds lite.. and still win... say you are 3225 pound and the scales are off by 25 pounds you lose. if you 3226 pounds and the scale is off by 25 you win...Its called give and take...
                            then find another sanction UMP have never faulted what the rules are with weight bring it to the scales right or get dq ed end of story

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                            • MasterSbilt_Racer
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2007
                              • 14324

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Dirt Racing #1 View Post
                              Eldora screwed Bloomer at the dream on the scale. Stewart's not man enough to admit it. Basically all it comes down to. It was proven the scales weren't accurate.
                              They did not screw him. Scales are not accurate at most tracks. That is why you check your weight on their scales. Rules clearly state that track scales are the standard, calibrated or not.
                              Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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                              • Dirt Racing #1
                                Senior Member
                                • Jun 2014
                                • 879

                                #30
                                The drivers/teams deserve to have the scale as accurate as possible. Specially running for 100g. You think Stewart etc could have the scale checked.

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