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  • formercrewguy
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 987

    #16
    Originally posted by Rubbinsracin1 View Post
    Would you still support your favorite driver if they didnt stand, or show respect for our AMERICAN NATIONAL ANTHEM? It seems like its a 50/50 deal.
    The problem with your question is that there is NOT A SINGLE DRIVER that isn't patriotic and THANKFUL for what they have. Not one. The National Felon League is different......

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    • Clayton_Wetter
      Banned
      • May 2007
      • 16671

      #17
      Originally posted by old fan View Post
      I would kick him in the nutz
      Boy that will show them a thing or two about patriotism!!!!

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      • Clayton_Wetter
        Banned
        • May 2007
        • 16671

        #18
        Originally posted by Rubbinsracin1 View Post
        Would you still support your favorite driver if they didnt stand, or show respect for our AMERICAN NATIONAL ANTHEM? It seems like its a 50/50 deal.
        I would say no I would not.

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        • Centeroff
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2016
          • 1896

          #19
          That American flag flys above all. Many have gave their lives for all of our freedom. Colin Kaepernick needs his azz stomped out. You don't disrespect that flag near me and that's a promise. My children used to try to talk while the pledge of allegiance or the star spangled banner played and they learned really quick that wasn't a smart move. They play those songs for a reason, to remind the drivers and fans that we live in the greatest country in the world and we are free to gather and enjoy a race together. I can't speak for all the untrained and scared police officers who shoot and kill the citizens of America but that flag flys for a reason. God bless America!!

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          • a25rjr
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2016
            • 3774

            #20
            What do you expect from a disgruntled "ex-superstar" from San Francisco?

            I hope he gets his clock cleaned by a vets son. Then, he'll learn to stand up and pay respect to our countrys flag!

            And as you can tell....NO...I would not support my fav driver!
            Turn LEFT, Vote RIGHT!

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            • Birky15Bfan
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 404

              #21
              Funny how it was the Republicans that freed the slaves in the first place and the Democrats were in favor of keepimg slavery and now the Democrats have a cow over something that they say represents what they were in favor of keeping at that time.

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              • Highside Hustler25
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2009
                • 12971

                #22
                Originally posted by Birky15Bfan View Post
                Funny how it was the Republicans that freed the slaves in the first place and the Democrats were in favor of keepimg slavery and now the Democrats have a cow over something that they say represents what they were in favor of keeping at that time.
                Things that make ya go hmmmmmmmmm.
                8/13/16

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                • Barbecueboy
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 18116

                  #23
                  Originally posted by MotoMatt View Post
                  I get tired of seeing crews working on cars and even engines fired during the Anthem. As a Veteran I fought(literally) for there right to be stupid, that doesn't mean I have to like it.

                  And, not to start up crap, but I will make one point on the Rebel Flag, in my observance of the whole thing it means two different things to two different people. In a southerners eyes it is heritage, in a black man's eyes it represents slavery. Right or wrong, agree or disagree, that is why some people don't want to see it, they aren't saying it has no other meaning(some probably are, they are ignorant) they are saying that was the flag flown by the people who wanted to keep the slaves as such. At the same time I think it's due time some people give up the whole slavery issue because none of them were slaves, heck, its pretty unlikely anyone who was alive when they were born were slaves. Sad part is there are still thousands of slaves all over the world, and I don't see those people b*tching about that flag doing anything to help them either.
                  Matt, I think you should take another look at the information you have on the confederate battle flag and where it was flown and by whom....

                  The guys that fly them off of their 40 foot whip CB antennas on the back of their rear lowered big tire pick up trucks have no idea what it even truly means.......or at least most of them I ask don't.

                  If the guy doesn't want to stand for the anthem, no problem.........just makes my decision to want to stand in line and pay the ticket prices to see him play very easy.

                  I say let him write his own ticket with this thing.....it's the last 5 minutes of fame he will ever get......it sure won't be with his on field prowess.
                  Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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                  • Highside Hustler25
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 12971

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Barbecueboy View Post
                    The guys that fly them off of their 40 foot whip CB antennas on the back of their rear lowered big tire pick up trucks have no idea what it even truly means.......or at least most of them I ask don't.
                    Could you play some Lynyrd Skynyrd please
                    8/13/16

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                    • Clayton_Wetter
                      Banned
                      • May 2007
                      • 16671

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Barbecueboy View Post
                      Matt, I think you should take another look at the information you have on the confederate battle flag and where it was flown and by whom....

                      The guys that fly them off of their 40 foot whip CB antennas on the back of their rear lowered big tire pick up trucks have no idea what it even truly means.......or at least most of them I ask don't.

                      If the guy doesn't want to stand for the anthem, no problem.........just makes my decision to want to stand in line and pay the ticket prices to see him play very easy.

                      I say let him write his own ticket with this thing.....it's the last 5 minutes of fame he will ever get......it sure won't be with his on field prowess.
                      It stands for the Confederate States of America. Not for slavery. Although many insist on linking the two together for political gains.

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                      • Centeroff
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2016
                        • 1896

                        #26
                        Jesus, how many people failed history class?

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                        • zyoung25
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 8960

                          #27
                          Originally posted by MotoMatt View Post
                          I get tired of seeing crews working on cars and even engines fired during the Anthem. As a Veteran I fought(literally) for there right to be stupid, that doesn't mean I have to like it.
                          Originally posted by superstock79 View Post
                          In all fairness, and I am NOT AT ALL speaking for all teams, but a lot more often than not, the crews r around a noisy engine, or thrashing away and u cannot hear the PA system n most pits to even know that it is going on...
                          Ill use Eldora as an example. They have no PA system in the infield. The only way a person knows the anthem is being played is by watching the crowd. They have done the hot laps before the national anthem a few times. It's kinda hard to stand and watch the crowd when there are things to be done. I don't think anyone in the pit area is doing it to disrespect the flag or their country.

                          I don't think we would have to worry about this ever happening in our sport. Not too many people are that thirsty for attention here. Everyone that is involved in this stuff are hard working, respectful blue collar people. Not some rich sports figure that thinks everyone owes him something. I can see someone stomping Colin out during this if he decides to sit on his rump during the national anthem, it might even be a teammate of his. That ol boy don't realize it, his career is done after this contract is up. He may as well go back to wherever his white american parents adopted him from after that. Cuz I feel like most of everyone in this country wants to stomp a mudhole in his @$$.

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                          • BloomerHarvickFan
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2007
                            • 546

                            #28
                            And it also seems that different tracks play the anthem at different points of the night. I have seen some that play it right before the late model qualifying, and some that play it right before the first "race" of the night, and even a few times that it's played right before the feature, while the cars are on the front stretch.
                            I wouldnt think drivers or crews would intentionally disrespect it.
                            Also, if the pits are outside the track, like I think has been mentioned, it may be hard to even know what's going on.

                            One of the coolest things that some places do is have a driver carry the flag around the track during the anthem.

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                            • Barbecueboy
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2013
                              • 18116

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Centeroff View Post
                              Jesus, how many people failed history class?
                              Thinking the same thing centeroff........
                              Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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                              • Josh Bayko
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2007
                                • 8757

                                #30
                                The beauty of America is that Colin Kapernick can choose to be disrespectful his country's national anthem, and not have any legal repercussions of any sort. We have free speech. However, free speech doesn't mean you get to be free from criticism. He's learning that now.

                                I don't necessarily have a problem with the message he's trying to convey. I mean, as I said, it's his right to do that. I don't agree with any of it, but it's well within his rights to handle himself the way he's handling himself. If I was on his team, though, I'd be pissed. It's going to be awful hard to concentrate on football if the only questions anybody ever asks are about your rapidly fading backup quarterback's "stand against oppression". That kind of stuff is locker room cancer.
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