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  • Barbecueboy
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2013
    • 18116

    #61
    Originally posted by 3 wide View Post
    If your not going to in force the rule book why did you write it just throw it away .
    You need to have systems in place to be 100% certain that someone is actually cheating before you can enforce anything.....
    Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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    • Cardirt0
      Banned
      • May 2007
      • 5271

      #62
      Originally posted by Barbecueboy View Post
      You need to have systems in place to be 100% certain that someone is actually cheating before you can enforce anything.....
      Bboy To most that dont matter.. If they dont like that driver they will Wine .. if the Love the driver they will Wine .. But too fix it .. That be too easy .. Know what I mean....You are not a Cheater till you PROVE that they Cheated ..I am sorry butThey have not Proved that ...

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      • K1ngCat
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2016
        • 165

        #63
        Originally posted by dirt crow View Post
        The bloomer fans are always easy to spot. Nasty appearance, nappy hair and beards, ugly jailhouse tats.
        yep,mostly,lol

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        • old fan
          Banned
          • Jan 2016
          • 4191

          #64
          Originally posted by Barbecueboy View Post
          You need to have systems in place to be 100% certain that someone is actually cheating before you can enforce anything.....
          and what would that be when they track scales prevail and you come up light you are done , when they find tires that does not meet the benchmark what more do you want

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          • Bubstr
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2008
            • 3734

            #65
            Some seem to want to get away from the facts here. The rules say a tire has to meet the benchmark of the manufacture, it says nothing about added chemicals, although that would not meet the benchmark. The 5 drivers agreed to this when entering. So hypothetically you could add a solvent that would evaporate, taking some part of the tires make up with it. The tire then, would not meet the benchmark and be illegal. If you where sold a special tire from the dealer, I doubt that neither party would be ignorant of the fact, that it would not meet the benchmark.It seems a driver should be more discerning about who he buys tires from. No matter how you put it, it was he driver that has to insure that the tire meets the bench mark. If he was sold a illegal tire unknowingly, they should be suing that guy and they shouldn't be buying tires from them again. Do you really want a tire deal from someone that is going to get you banned and labeled a cheater?

            Bottom line is, these guys had tires that didn't meet the bench mark, unless they can prove the samples where tampered with or the benchmark was incorrect or the Lab didn't do a good job, How can they win? I don't think these guys thought this threw very well. Just because one of these Lawyers say something, it doesn't make it true. They have to have proof in a court of law or overwhelming doubt. It's a good bet, the defendants sent some of their sample to another lab for a back up expert witness. It they match, it's a slam dunk, if it don't they will discard it. The plaintiffs can send out a sample of that tire, but the chain of custody is slightly tainted and they better hope it matches the benchmark 100% or it may be worthless. If it matches, it does create doubt.

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            • zyoung25
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2007
              • 8955

              #66
              Jerry Bowersock said last night the owner of the best performance team said F eldora, he wasn't supporting them. Jeff Babc0cok could run the world if he wanted to in the best car. No one is banned.

              Jerry is sponsored by best, if anyone would know the truth, it would be him.

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              • Necrosis
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2014
                • 379

                #67
                Many of you forget UMP's long-time dislike of Scott. I was on pit road during that lap 19 caution, circa Eldora 2014. When they put him to the rear, that big-lumbering UMP official and the scrawny mustache official started high-fiving and laughing ecstatically....

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                • K1ngCat
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2016
                  • 165

                  #68
                  Originally posted by Cardirt0 View Post
                  Bboy To most that dont matter.. If they dont like that driver they will Wine .. if the Love the driver they will Wine .. But too fix it .. That be too easy .. Know what I mean....You are not a Cheater till you PROVE that they Cheated ..I am sorry butThey have not Proved that ...
                  So they tested the tires,found them to be bad,tested them again and was ok?
                  What should they do?.............just let it slide

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                  • old fan
                    Banned
                    • Jan 2016
                    • 4191

                    #69
                    well you come to track with un approved equipment you will get that kinda treatment

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                    • K1ngCat
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2016
                      • 165

                      #70
                      They need to roll them tires out to the middle of the infield like they did at the North South 100,every single time,test them,test them,test them,then we may find out if it's the tires or the drivers.

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                      • Barbecueboy
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 18116

                        #71
                        Originally posted by K1ngCat View Post
                        They need to roll them tires out to the middle of the infield like they did at the North South 100,every single time,test them,test them,test them,then we may find out if it's the tires or the drivers.
                        That would make too much sense.......and who needs to be certain anyway?

                        Let's just all trust everything and use the honor system from top to bottom on both sides......that would be fair, right?
                        Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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                        • old fan
                          Banned
                          • Jan 2016
                          • 4191

                          #72
                          he was talking about fresh rr tires

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                          • a25rjr
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2016
                            • 3774

                            #73
                            Originally posted by Barbecueboy View Post
                            That would make too much sense.......and who needs to be certain anyway?

                            Let's just all trust everything and use the honor system from top to bottom on both sides......that would be fair, right?
                            I think its funny some on here are such haters, that they wouldn't sue someone over a measly 100k. I guess only some of us with good sense would do so.....roll eyes!

                            If I was a betting man, I bet the fab 5's lawyer took the case on contingency! Generally, high profile lawyers only take those when its a slam dunk!
                            Turn LEFT, Vote RIGHT!

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                            • K1ngCat
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2016
                              • 165

                              #74
                              Originally posted by Barbecueboy View Post
                              That would make too much sense.......and who needs to be certain anyway?

                              Let's just all trust everything and use the honor system from top to bottom on both sides......that would be fair, right?
                              I would like to be 100 percent certain when I call Bloompest a cheater,even though his history has proven that to be fact.

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                              • calverton
                                Banned
                                • Sep 2016
                                • 1591

                                #75
                                Originally posted by a25rjr View Post
                                I think its funny some on here are such haters, that they wouldn't sue someone over a measly 100k. I guess only some of us with good sense would do so.....roll eyes!If I was a betting man, I bet the fab 5's lawyer took the case on contingency! Generally, high profile lawyers only take those when its a slam dunk!
                                better check their lawyers profile again

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