The Chesley Dixon Fire at Swainsboro

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  • Raceready
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2015
    • 4737

    #46
    Originally posted by ClampedUp View Post
    Most all the tracks in my area (Western Pa.) allow the VFD's to sell 50/50 tickets and collect the proceeds for the VFD, do various other things to make money for the VFD's, give them free food and admission, and some if not all the tracks also give them a nice donation too.
    Which track was it in central PA that the promoter went berky because the fire department started to leave the track because the promoter was to pay them some piddly amount like $50.00 each week and he couldn't even cough up that amount so he put on a demolition show between his pickup and the fire truck? I think someone pulled him out of his truck and the PoPo hauled his sorry butt away.Was it Gamblers ? The track that used to be Hidden Valley 20 some years ago and was on the same road as Clearfield Speedway ?

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    • ClampedUp
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 1131

      #47
      Originally posted by Raceready View Post
      Which track was it in central PA that the promoter went berky because the fire department started to leave the track because the promoter was to pay them some piddly amount like $50.00 each week and he couldn't even cough up that amount so he put on a demolition show between his pickup and the fire truck? I think someone pulled him out of his truck and the PoPo hauled his sorry butt away.Was it Gamblers ? The track that used to be Hidden Valley 20 some years ago and was on the same road as Clearfield Speedway ?
      You sir are correct........

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      • Fast Wheels
        Senior Member
        • May 2007
        • 133

        #48
        It is just UNBELIEVABLE that any track would not have a fire department on site after what happened this spring at Southern Ohio Speedway. And at Southern Ohio, they actually did have a fire department on site but supposedly the pump on the fire truck malfunctioned. No excuse for not having a fire truck with trained fireman. Many tracks have their fire companies selling 50/50 to benefit them to get them to come.

        All the racers know the risks when they strap in the cars. It is up to them and their car builders to build the safest car possible. That is what should be expected of them. But it is also up to the tracks do whatever they can to assure safety. Having a fire truck and ambulance on site with trained personnel is what should be expected of the tracks.

        In the Southern Ohio incident, the track did what they should have done and it was a tragic chain of events. In this Swainsboro case, the track did not and there should be some liability on their part.

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        • bayou tuff
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2009
          • 149

          #49
          If you go to a racetrack and they don't have a fire truck with FOAM on board, turn around and leave! Foam is the only thing that will put out a race fuel fire. ALL tracks should have trained firefighters and medical(paramedics, emt's) at the track ready to go in a seconds notice. Take it from a retired firefighter who was at Paducah many years ago when Jim Dunn lost his life. Drivers, inspect the fire equipment at the track BEFORE the races and never depend on someone's word that adequate equipment is on site. Racing is an inherently a very dangerous sport, but some risks like fire can be reduced substantially just by the track and drivers taking the necessary precautions beforehand.

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          • Cardirt0
            Banned
            • May 2007
            • 5271

            #50
            Originally posted by Bob Hubbard View Post
            I read someplace the bigger 75 lb bottles do a better job than a bunch of small ones .... I guess the full volume of a Bigger extinguisher doesnt give the fire a chance to breath ... Smothering it all at once im guessing ....
            Its a Gas Fire ,... You should use whats best for a Gas Fire...3 kinds of Fire Ex.. 1 wet .. 2 one that remove the air... and 3 Foam...you can get all 3 in 50 and 75 pound bottles..
            1 wet is not good for gas fires
            2 will work but on a big fire if you dont get it out be for the tank runs out it spreads Plus you have too be close to the Fire..
            3 foam covers the gas once the gas is covered the fire can not spread back too that part that coverd and be part of the fire...
            Cover the Fire with Foam and finch it off with 2s
            With Foam you can get back packs that will shoot the foam 35 feet.. So even on a big fire its the only one you can keep using it to fight the Fire...
            I learned this at a air force base that gave Fire fighting Classes.. Did a class on how, and what too use, On what kind of fire it is...

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            • bayou tuff
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2009
              • 149

              #51
              Cold Fyre eco-friendly, biodegradable, easy to clean up and will put out a race fuel fire. FOAM!!!!

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              • Cardirt0
                Banned
                • May 2007
                • 5271

                #52
                Originally posted by bayou tuff View Post
                Cold Fyre eco-friendly, biodegradable, easy to clean up and will put out a race fuel fire. FOAM!!!!
                Can say it enuff Foam Foam Foam.. No only the Best ...But the only way too fight a Gas fire...

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                • Cardirt0
                  Banned
                  • May 2007
                  • 5271

                  #53

                  Google What the best way to put out a Gas fire.. Click above
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                  90 % of all fire EX at race tracks are co2.. If you see a fog from them its a co2 ..They need too replace them with FOAM ones...
                  Last edited by Cardirt0; 09-06-2016, 11:28 AM. Reason: need too add

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                  • flagone
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 2861

                    #54
                    We utilize Purple K in all of our extinguishers. We have 2 10# for each 4 wheeler. Purple K and Cold Fyre are both good for fuel fires.

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                    • Cardirt0
                      Banned
                      • May 2007
                      • 5271

                      #55
                      Originally posted by flagone View Post
                      We utilize Purple K in all of our extinguishers. We have 2 10# for each 4 wheeler. Purple K and Cold Fyre are both good for fuel fires.
                      Its good too know you care about your drivers.. You should let them know that you are set up to save them and they need to ask the other tracks they race at if they do...It still would not hurt too have small Form truck on hand...

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                      • bayou tuff
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 149

                        #56
                        Good job Flagone!! maybe announce this at the Drivers meeting?

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                        • a25rjr
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2016
                          • 3774

                          #57
                          Originally posted by flagone View Post
                          We utilize Purple K in all of our extinguishers. We have 2 10# for each 4 wheeler. Purple K and Cold Fyre are both good for fuel fires.
                          Kelly, since you're the director of a series, would it be a good or bad idea to require each team to carry a fire extinguisher on their pit cart/four wheeler? I really don't see how it could hurt!
                          Turn LEFT, Vote RIGHT!

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                          • GRT24
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2011
                            • 326

                            #58
                            At dixie speedway. They have a some full time fighters that work at the track and I think two of them stay in the pants and boots and if something happens they can put on there jackets and gear A lot of times there's a full size truck that's has on duty firefighters at the truck. They park by the outside pit gate and stand on top and watch the races. They also have an old ambulance outfitted with rescue stuff and extinguishers.

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                            • flagone
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2007
                              • 2861

                              #59
                              I think having an extinguisher on all the pit carts or 4-wheelers is a great idea. As long as its an ABC or one of those I mentioned. H2O and CO2 extinguisher are fairly useless for fuel fires. In fact H2O only serves to make the fire bigger in area.

                              Bayou we have been carrying Purple K for probably 5 years now. I was once a firefighter and I am still to this day a paramedic so I had a little edge on some as far as knowledge of what to have.

                              I was asked just yesterday to be involved in a seminar regarding track safety and I plan to participate.

                              Here is a link to purchase a Purple K ext. (we have the $77 one) https://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&ke...l_2abhb6ry8n_b
                              Last edited by flagone; 09-06-2016, 03:55 PM.

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                              • Cardirt0
                                Banned
                                • May 2007
                                • 5271

                                #60
                                When The Rantoul air force base was still open .. My Bro. in Law was Head of Supply for the hole base .. It was the numb. 1 for fire fight in the world for training for Fire .. He got me on base too see them put out a Big fire like on a B 1 bomber Big a$$ Thing .. them foam trucks hit it when the Hole thing was on Fire .. Plane COOL it was 48 sec the fire was out...Foam on a Gas fire... Only way too go...
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                                I should all so add that they used Big A$$ trucks.. but it still works the same...
                                Last edited by Cardirt0; 09-06-2016, 05:16 PM. Reason: Had too Add

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