Jackie Boggs nailed for tires not meeting benchmark

[FlatTire]

Hoosier can't even make a tire that has a consistent circumference, what makes you think they can provide consistent benchmarks? Maybe they just better send all these tires to the lab and furnish paper work with them BEFORE they sell them. That way the racer knows what he is getting. I wouldn't trust the PURPLE MAFIA either.

And who decides what kind of tolerance is allowed for these lab results when comparing to the benchmark. There is error in every test that needs to be accounted for as well. I did my time in the chemistry lab. I understand how it works.

Its just like forensic science, the non-scientific community accepts it as gospel. I'm glad Bloomer is questioning their test results. Somebody needs to. Black Sunshine seems like the right man for the job.

[Bob Hubbard]

Yup

Well here we go. A tech at american racer expressed his views on this bench mark subject. It is well known that another tire company makes certain tires for certain people and the compound marked on the tire is not the compound that is in that tire. So that means it does not meet the bench mark. Thus it is not chemically treated, just not up to specification for that compound.

This is what I heard too .... At some point the truth will trickle down to the fan base ...

[Barbecueboy]

Hoosier can't even make a tire that has a consistent circumference, what makes you think they can provide consistent benchmarks? Maybe they just better send all these tires to the lab and furnish paper work with them BEFORE they sell them. That way the racer knows what he is getting. I wouldn't trust the PURPLE MAFIA either.

And who decides what kind of tolerance is allowed for these lab results when comparing to the benchmark. There is error in every test that needs to be accounted for as well. I did my time in the chemistry lab. I understand how it works.

Its just like forensic science, the non-scientific community accepts it as gospel. I'm glad Bloomer is questioning their test results. Somebody needs to. Black Sunshine seems like the right man for the job.

Welcome to the club.......what size hat do you wear?

And do you prefer the shiny foil side out or the flat side out????

[Snake X3]

I read the first page of the thread but I just can't stomach reading through another 5 pages of tire discussions again so forgive me if this was already mentioned...I don't see the sample results posted on the AMRA website...yet. Any chance this is a hoax?

http://www.amramodified.com/

[Cardirt0]

Hoosier can't even make a tire that has a consistent circumference, what makes you think they can provide consistent benchmarks? Maybe they just better send all these tires to the lab and furnish paper work with them BEFORE they sell them. That way the racer knows what he is getting. I wouldn't trust the PURPLE MAFIA either.

And who decides what kind of tolerance is allowed for these lab results when comparing to the benchmark. There is error in every test that needs to be accounted for as well. I did my time in the chemistry lab. I understand how it works.

Its just like forensic science, the non-scientific community accepts it as gospel. I'm glad Bloomer is questioning their test results. Somebody needs to. Black Sunshine seems like the right man for the job.

Yep I have gone and got 2 tires both 40 mounted them on rims the same size...pump them up to 40 pounds . Say one of them is 94in and the other one is 98in.. How can 2 tire be the same and be SO far a part...So i check the numbers on the side . And they are from the same batch same Machine ...Something is wrong....

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

I read the first page of the thread but I just can't stomach reading through another 5 pages of tire discussions again so forgive me if this was already mentioned...I don't see the sample results posted on the AMRA website...yet. Any chance this is a hoax?

http://www.amramodified.com/

I saw them on Facebook.

[Cardirt0]

I read the first page of the thread but I just can't stomach reading through another 5 pages of tire discussions again so forgive me if this was already mentioned...I don't see the sample results posted on the AMRA website...yet. Any chance this is a hoax?

http://www.amramodified.com/

I think I found them on the web site you posted..2nd one center of page....shows 3 tires that passed...

[71PRPFan]

From way back in July...

Whether he cheated them tars I don't know. I just can't see Jackie doping or using the voodoo chemical remover magic for a $1500 to win 25 lap race at a track he's
Won at like 12 times this year when AMRA has been testing tires all year.

[Barbecueboy]

From way back in July...

Whether he cheated them tars I don't know. I just can't see Jackie doping or using the voodoo chemical remover magic for a $1500 to win 25 lap race at a track he's
Won at like 12 times this year when AMRA has been testing tires all year.

That is entirely too sensible and logical........and has no place on 4m.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

From way back in July...

Whether he cheated them tars I don't know. I just can't see Jackie doping or using the voodoo chemical remover magic for a $1500 to win 25 lap race at a track he's
Won at like 12 times this year when AMRA has been testing tires all year.

Actually, it is a perfect place to test a tire technique , since the same lab is in use and the penalty is pretty much a non issue for him.

[Cardirt0]

Actually, it is a perfect place to test a tire technique , since the same lab is in use and the penalty is pretty much a non issue for him.

You got a good point there.. If you want to try something and see if it works. AND see if you can get a way with it .. Try it were it will not cost to much...Not saying he did, But it looks like it...And it be a good place too do it....

[Snake X3]

I think I found them on the web site you posted..2nd one center of page....shows 3 tires that passed...

That one was from July 19th. It's probably not a hoax, but my first thought was that someone could easily photoshop an image and post it on facebook....especially when it wasn't on their website yet. I guess I'm just too worn out from all this tire crap to want to believe it...not naïve, but just worn out.

Dang Jackie! Why?

[Cardirt0]

Snake I know what you mean.. I hate Cheating ..and this is not getting old but getting REAL OLD..Fast .. If the driver I like and I found out he was Cheating,,,, I would be HEART broken.. I just dont think he does it.. But this $hit needs too end and end NOW...

[Snake X3]

Snake I know what you mean.. I hate Cheating ..and this is not getting old but getting REAL OLD..Fast .. If the driver I like and I found out he was Cheating,,,, I would be HEART broken.. I just dont think he does it.. But this $hit needs too end and end NOW...

As a fan, I know I'm not alone being disillusioned by all the cheating. You see a guy like Rigsby and you can tell it's just ripping out his soul. I just don't get why these guys would cheat if they know they are gonna get tested. It's like going a coke bender the night before you gotta pee in a cup for your job. I just can't believe these guys would be that stupid.

Anyway...are you one of the guys that does those Mudboss videos? Those things are awesome. I watched every one of them this season...start to finish. I feel like Farmer City is my home track now.

[Cardirt0]

As a fan, I know I'm not alone being disillusioned by all the cheating. You see a guy like Rigsby and you can tell it's just ripping out his soul. I just don't get why these guys would cheat if they know they are gonna get tested. It's like going a coke bender the night before you gotta pee in a cup for your job. I just can't believe these guys would be that stupid.

Anyway...are you one of the guys that does those Mudboss videos? Those things are awesome. I watched every one of them this season...start to finish. I feel like Farmer City is my home track now.

No I am not with MUD.. but if you ever get a change too meet him he is one cool guy.. He gave me a years worth of Vids on CDs for FarmerCity for FREE when he heard i could not make it no more..He and his Boy are the best..If you want a CD of a race he will sell it to you and at a good price..Hes the best thats why i have him on my link...