Brownstown

[Matt49]

Video with camera sitting ON the backstretch wall. Note: Cars nowhere near it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxihOw2NkVQ

And in the daylight in case your vision is bad:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8YrV5jy358

[old fan]

No the fact they had a wall at all when a driver had issues he could pull off keeping the show going and in those days it was important when car counts in a certain class was higher than they are today , why did they mess with it that's what so unique about the place now you have minis sprints and what not filling the pit area.

[cutman]

No the fact they had a wall at all when a driver had issues he could pull off keeping the show going and in those days it was important when car counts in a certain class was higher than they are today , why did they mess with it thats what so unique about the place now you have minis sprints and what not filling the pit area

What are you talking about? You can still pull off the track?

[Matt49]

What he is getting at, is that back in the day when they had the makeshift wall, there was an opening in the backstretch where a car could pull off and completely leave the track there. But again, he is talking out his elbow. If you have a problem on the backstretch today, you can pull off the track and exit through the service alley right next to the lineup shoot. There's an acre of grass out there and cars do it all the time and it never brings out the caution. It's also a hot pit area for longer races.

The problem today (in general and at all tracks) is that when people have a problem they insist on stopping on the track rather than pulling off to intentionally bring out the caution. So we're sort of talking about two different problems here.

[old fan]

Stopping on the track is the track crews fault real simple you cause a yellow like stopping on the track you are done for the race

[Matt49]

Stopping on the track is the track crews fault real simple you cause a yellow like stopping on the track you are done for the race

The rule at Brownstown (as discussed at each driver's meeting) is that if you stop on the track intentionally to bring out a yellow, you go a lap down.
Enforcement of that rule has been a different story.

[old fan]

Enforcement of that rule has been a different story. whoop there it is

[cratedaddyD21]

Old fan, I am 50 yrs old...I remember those days of the guys pulling off the back stretch. My Dad always pitted by the "Big Tree" back in those days. Back then you had to be 12 yrs. old to enter the pits, since I was a tall kid...I got to go at 10.....Those days were special. I like Brownstown now, though, it's way to fast and too steep on the back side of the track. I hope Jim can cut it down just enough to keep cars from flipping and still give us good racing. I loved the Black and slick and smooth that use to be Brownstown....brought the great drivers to the front, but those days are past us now.

[Matt49]

Old fan, I am 50 yrs old...I remember those days of the guys pulling off the back stretch. My Dad always pitted by the "Big Tree" back in those days. Back then you had to be 12 yrs. old to enter the pits, since I was a tall kid...I got to go at 10.....Those days were special. I like Brownstown now, though, it's way to fast and too steep on the back side of the track. I hope Jim can cut it down just enough to keep cars from flipping and still give us good racing. I loved the Black and slick and smooth that use to be Brownstown....brought the great drivers to the front, but those days are past us now.

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But those days are note gone. With the right track configuration, Brownstown will be right back where it was.
Like to you, Brownstown is a special, almost sacred, place to me.

[fryefan]

The walls are a good 30 feet from the edge of the racing surface. I race there almost every weekend. As usual, you have no idea what you are talking about.

The problem at Brownstown right now is the insanely sharp drop off the banking in the corners AND on the straights. Particularly the back stretch which has claimed about a half dozen cars this year.

You hit the nail on the head. Especially the last sentence of your 1st paragraph.

[Clayton_Wetter]

Mahoney was leading by a half lap when caution came out. O'Neal took him out on restart to beat him

Very ugly way to win. Feel really bad for Mahoney who blew the field away until that caution. He ran a flawless night of racing, set a new track record, 12.72 and just plain got ran over on the restart. Really pathetic.

I want to give the track prep a congratulations for the great surface, and no dust or rubber until into the features.

[Welder89]

I was looking on Facebook trying to find pictures of the car to see what kind of damage the cage and halo had sustained, but couldn't find any. After all the concussion and injuries that have happend this season I'd really like to see pics of the damaged cars but nobody seems to ever post any on social media. Especially the longhorn cars. I only say this because maybe the right person will see what's going on and where they are failing at and suggest a better idea for halo and cage design? Just a thought.

[Clayton_Wetter]

Where's Clayton?

The banking is fine, the track was great last night. Past weeks have seen the slick surface and wiped off cushion cause some problems. When side bite is poor and no cushion it causes many cautions and some bad wrecks lately.

[Hoosier_Dirt]

Oneal did not take out Mahoney. He made a clean slide job, actually Mahoney drove into the back of Oneal in 2, then they got together on the backstretch. Mahoney got collected in 3.

[Clayton_Wetter]

Oneal did not take out Mahoney. He made a clean slide job, actually Mahoney drove into the back of Oneal in 2, then they got together on the backstretch. Mahoney got collected in 3.

He jumped the restart also. I would be ticked too. Mahoney got hosed.