Lucas rules

[zeroracing]

The rules do not call for a regular containment seat, they call for a 39.2 seat. Hopefully they will amend that portion at the least, I will sell my car and move to another class before I buy one.

[Ryan21mid]

The rules do not call for a regular containment seat, they call for a 39.2 seat. Hopefully they will amend that portion at the least, I will sell my car and move to another class before I buy one.

What's special about a 39.2 seat?

[onlyfacts]

It's come down to a group of series leaders changing and mandating rules to kill the sport we all love. This maybe one of the days we remember a few years from now when there is very few racers left. These leaders need to wake up and understand that there is a certain amount of risk that comes with Motortsports. I am all for improving safety but it can't be at the cost of killing the sport.

[W2Racing09]

It's come down to a group of series leaders changing and mandating rules to kill the sport we all love. This maybe one of the days we remember a few years from now when there is very few racers left. These leaders need to wake up and understand that there is a certain amount of risk that comes with Motortsports. I am all for improving safety but it can't be at the cost of killing the sport.

If someone can afford an $40k (low end) SLM, but can't afford a full containment seat then there is a problem. These safety rules are already in effect on many cars, and they are such a comparatively small percentage of the overall cost of the car and everything that goes towards it.

[06Tireman]

So we replace dzus buttons with bolts with heads sticking out that could shear off and send the cover flying?? Makes absolutely no sense at all..

[dangerdann]

I agree with all the rules but not the sfi seat and sfi fuel cell. Now local guys have to buy a $4000 seat and a special $1500 fuel cell. Definatly need a containment seat and a good cell but thats extensive.

[onlyfacts]

If someone can afford an $40k (low end) SLM, but can't afford a full containment seat then there is a problem. These safety rules are already in effect on many cars, and they are such a comparatively small percentage of the overall cost of the car and everything that goes towards it.

Not every late model racing is the most up to date piece of 40K equipment. This sport is made up of all levels of financial operations. Not every car in the pit area is a new 40K Longhorn or XR1. I agree on containment seat mandatory but an SFI 39-2 seat is a min of $5000.00. You have no idea what is entailed here. The fire system that is on this mandate is $900.00. The fuel cell requirement mandated is a min of $1500.00. And the bolt on mud covers is going to be an aggravation more so that cost.... although cost will be something to all racers that will need to update their covers and wheels. Not all racers are going to buy new wheels to upgrade. I can see this being a nail into the coffin of Late Model Racing. Now that 40K Longhorn or XR1 is now near 50K but the big factor here is the fact that ever late model team in the country will be spending 8-10K to update each car(s) the have. Some people woke up happy today with election results but some people didn't. But very few racers will be happy with these rules updates.

[Ryan21mid]

http://fuelsafe.com/store/fuel-cells.html

Here's your FIA-FT3 Certified Lucas/WoO LEGAL fuel cell for $785. You all may be jumping the gun a bit on your predictions.

[cutman]

Not every late model racing is the most up to date piece of 40K equipment. This sport is made up of all levels of financial operations. Not every car in the pit area is a new 40K Longhorn or XR1. I agree on containment seat mandatory but an SFI 39-2 seat is a min of $5000.00. You have no idea what is entailed here. The fire system that is on this mandate is $900.00. The fuel cell requirement mandated is a min of $1500.00. And the bolt on mud covers is going to be an aggravation more so that cost.... although cost will be something to all racers that will need to update their covers and wheels. Not all racers are going to buy new wheels to upgrade. I can see this being a nail into the coffin of Late Model Racing.

Man, gonna be interesting to see how this effects the local racers and car counts.

[nuff said]

This will keep your local racers from being able to run with the big boys when they come to town.

[onlyfacts]

http://fuelsafe.com/store/fuel-cells.html Here's your FIA-FT3 Certified Lucas/WoO LEGAL fuel cell for $785. You all may be jumping the gun a bit on your predictions.

You may want to recheck that. That is a 15 gal cell. Most DLM cars are 28-32. That upgrade is 308.00 on that 785.00 cell 1093.00 total without brackets and without even knowing if that cell will fit..... which it won't because Chassis Manufactures have built the cars around special sized cells for better weight placement this is not reality.

[Ryan21mid]

http://www.circletracksupply.com/atl-racing-black-widow-wedge-fuel-cell-atlsp128-lm-nf-28-gallon-no-foam.html

Here's another, again this is similar to what everyone is currently running. Everyone isn't going to have to buy new special $1500+ fuel cells, all this rule is doing is keeping the homemade non-certified cells out.

[onlyfacts]

This will keep your local racers from being able to run with the big boys when they come to town.

Exactly. Car counts could be 15-25 for the Tour races at local tracks.

[Ryan21mid]

You may want to recheck that. That is a 15 gal cell. Most DLM cars are 28-32. That upgrade is 308.00 on that 785.00 cell 1093.00 total without brackets and without even knowing if that cell will fit..... which it won't because Chassis Manufactures have built the cars around special sized cells for better weight placement this is not reality.

Sorry, I did miss that price point on the size, my point here is most of your current fuel cells are still going to be legal..

[zeroracing]

I will be going with the the ATL style, i cannot fit a old school square one in. It will run about 1k by the time you get it in.

I will state they better tech the (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) thing!!!!!!!!! I spend $$$ and the other guys don't and nobody says anything I am going to be pissed. Or they decide after half of us go buy them we should give a grace period... How many rules have we had over the years that were never checked? Bladder fuel cells used to be in the rules but never was checked.