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  • PennDirt
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 2624

    #46
    Originally posted by Clayton_Wetter View Post
    So who decided DoD was entitled to speak for everyone? Just themselves, that's who.
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    • MasterSbilt_Racer
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 14324

      #47
      Originally posted by W2Racing09 View Post
      Speedweeks is part of calendar year 2016. Its not seasonally weighted, each win is considered equally. Considering the checks all cash the same, the points all add up the same and the drivers all show up to race I see no reason why Speedweeks wins would matter less.

      Thanks,
      Jeff.
      It means Richards was better in Feb. No way he outruns zero consistently during the summer of 16.

      If Feb is your sample, Davenport beats zero too. And T Mac was ahead or even in points.
      Last edited by MasterSbilt_Racer; 11-30-2016, 08:49 PM.
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      • W2Racing09
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2014
        • 1691

        #48
        Originally posted by dirtdobber45 View Post
        What were the other 3 he won that was over 20k?
        I never said he won six races that were over $20k, I said he won six races that were over $10k -- here are the other three.

        Illini 100: $15k
        Deer Creek: $12k
        World Finals: $12k

        Thanks,
        Jeff.
        Last edited by W2Racing09; 12-01-2016, 10:11 PM.

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        • W2Racing09
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2014
          • 1691

          #49
          Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
          It means Richards was better in Feb. No way he outruns zero consistently during the summer of 16.

          If Feb is your sample, Davenport beats zero too. And T Mac was ahead or even in points.
          If February does not count then why should April, or June, or August? Bloomquist and Richards raced together 23 times throughout the ENTIRE season (from when it started until when it ended) and Richards beat him 16 times out of 23 races.

          But just to put your mind at ease.

          If we don't consider Speedweeks at all (Richards finished ahead of Bloomquist 3 times at Golden Isles, 3 times at Eastbay and once at Ocala, then he beat Bloomquist twice at Volusia and Bloomquist beat Richards twice at Volusia). If you remove all of those races it will bring the total for the remainder of the year to 12 total races and Richards beating Bloomquist by a margin of 7 to 5 if my math is correct.

          However like I said before, the checks cash the same, the points count the same and all the drivers show up after having several months to prepare their equipment. There is no reason not to count the start of the regular season. It certainly counts in every other sport. I can almost see not counting racing in AZ (All of the best are not there, and they go off rules from the previous year) but Speedweeks is the official start to the season.

          Thanks,
          Jeff.

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          • W2Racing09
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2014
            • 1691

            #50
            Originally posted by Clayton_Wetter View Post
            So who decided DoD was entitled to speak for everyone? Just themselves, that's who.
            Nobody said they speak for you or any of the other people complaining. Its not like the list is official or means anything beyond website clicks and a few shares on Twitter. It gets a lot of attention because most of us respect their opinion and they back up most all of their decisions with facts.

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            • Bubstr
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2008
              • 3734

              #51
              DOD just ran that flag up. It's up to you, if you want to salute it or burn it. Hey, you can even sew up your own flag.

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              • onlyfacts
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2014
                • 395

                #52
                Speed Sport must have gotten it wrong also.https://speedsport.com/media/videos/...ower-rankings/

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                • rickybrown1952
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2014
                  • 1448

                  #53
                  So is it for sure that Josh will be running the LUCAS Oil Series
                  I am what I am

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                  • MasterSbilt_Racer
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 14324

                    #54
                    Originally posted by W2Racing09 View Post
                    If February does not count then why should April, or June, or August? Bloomquist and Richards raced together 23 times throughout the ENTIRE season (from when it started until when it ended) and Richards beat him 16 times out of 23 races.

                    But just to put your mind at ease.

                    If we don't consider Speedweeks at all (Richards finished ahead of Bloomquist 3 times at Golden Isles, 3 times at Eastbay and once at Ocala, then he beat Bloomquist twice at Volusia and Bloomquist beat Richards twice at Volusia). If you remove all of those races it will bring the total for the remainder of the year to 12 total races and Richards beating Bloomquist by a margin of 7 to 5 if my math is correct.

                    However like I said before, the checks cash the same, the points count the same and all the drivers show up after having several months to prepare their equipment. There is no reason not to count the start of the regular season. It certainly counts in every other sport. I can almost see not counting racing in AZ (All of the best are not there, and they go off rules from the previous year) but Speedweeks is the official start to the season.

                    Thanks,
                    Jeff.
                    I didn't say throw it out. But clearly, one small time frame was given a huge statistical overweight when considering head to head performance. That has to be acknowledged when throwing the numbers out there.
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                    • W2Racing09
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2014
                      • 1691

                      #55
                      Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
                      I didn't say throw it out. But clearly, one small time frame was given a huge statistical overweight when considering head to head performance. That has to be acknowledged when throwing the numbers out there.
                      I don't think they weighted February races anymore than July races or September races. I think you are saying that a race in February should be worth less than a race in July, which I disagree with. Every race, all year should be weighted based on the purse, strength of field, etc. not the month within which it occurs.

                      Are you saying February should matter less because so many races occur close together and that if someone is more prepared they will be better at all races since there are no breaks? I think that is a big part of racing, if Bloomquist was less prepared going into Speedweeks then that is on him.

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                      • MasterSbilt_Racer
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2007
                        • 14324

                        #56
                        Originally posted by W2Racing09 View Post
                        I don't think they weighted February races anymore than July races or September races. I think you are saying that a race in February should be worth less than a race in July, which I disagree with. Every race, all year should be weighted based on the purse, strength of field, etc. not the month within which it occurs.

                        Are you saying February should matter less because so many races occur close together and that if someone is more prepared they will be better at all races since there are no breaks? I think that is a big part of racing, if Bloomquist was less prepared going into Speedweeks then that is on him.
                        The vote is driver of the year. If half your data comes from Feb, it is overweighted. Yes, Richards invested more into Feb than anyone. But that isn't really most of the argument.
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                        • zach51
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 1362

                          #57
                          A marketing genius would try to sell an autographed Richards dildo to you guys, they would sell rocket-fast.

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                          • W2Racing09
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2014
                            • 1691

                            #58
                            Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
                            The vote is driver of the year. If half your data comes from Feb, it is overweighted. Yes, Richards invested more into Feb than anyone. But that isn't really most of the argument.
                            How do you see half of the data coming from February?

                            Thanks,
                            Jeff.

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                            • chupp n bloomer fan
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2007
                              • 11526

                              #59
                              Top 3

                              I think the top 3 is spot on.
                              Up in the air who my next “favorite” driver is. Really losing hope on Bloomer getting anywhere back to “normal”.

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                              • chupp n bloomer fan
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2007
                                • 11526

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Centeroff View Post
                                All right fryefan. How was he clearly the driver of the year? Besides the Pittsburgher what did he do? Flopped at the world, dream, DTWC, firecracker, and others. You have to win the big ones to say clearly. I can't say he wasn't the best this year but he definatly wasn't clearly the nations top driver. I'm a zero fan but I can't say he was clearly the best either. I think the 1 and zero were clearly the top 2 but could have went either way. Fact is Josh is only gonna get better and my boy Scott is probably on the downside. Let's just hope we get to see them racing each other for the Lucas oil title next season! Tell you the truth, I hope TMac or a sleeper wins it.
                                How'd Scott do at Eldora?
                                Up in the air who my next “favorite” driver is. Really losing hope on Bloomer getting anywhere back to “normal”.

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