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It means Richards was better in Feb. No way he outruns zero consistently during the summer of 16.Originally posted by W2Racing09 View PostSpeedweeks is part of calendar year 2016. Its not seasonally weighted, each win is considered equally. Considering the checks all cash the same, the points all add up the same and the drivers all show up to race I see no reason why Speedweeks wins would matter less.
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Jeff.
If Feb is your sample, Davenport beats zero too. And T Mac was ahead or even in points.Last edited by MasterSbilt_Racer; 11-30-2016, 08:49 PM.Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing
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I never said he won six races that were over $20k, I said he won six races that were over $10k -- here are the other three.Originally posted by dirtdobber45 View PostWhat were the other 3 he won that was over 20k?
Illini 100: $15k
Deer Creek: $12k
World Finals: $12k
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Jeff.Last edited by W2Racing09; 12-01-2016, 10:11 PM.
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If February does not count then why should April, or June, or August? Bloomquist and Richards raced together 23 times throughout the ENTIRE season (from when it started until when it ended) and Richards beat him 16 times out of 23 races.Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View PostIt means Richards was better in Feb. No way he outruns zero consistently during the summer of 16.
If Feb is your sample, Davenport beats zero too. And T Mac was ahead or even in points.
But just to put your mind at ease.
If we don't consider Speedweeks at all (Richards finished ahead of Bloomquist 3 times at Golden Isles, 3 times at Eastbay and once at Ocala, then he beat Bloomquist twice at Volusia and Bloomquist beat Richards twice at Volusia). If you remove all of those races it will bring the total for the remainder of the year to 12 total races and Richards beating Bloomquist by a margin of 7 to 5 if my math is correct.
However like I said before, the checks cash the same, the points count the same and all the drivers show up after having several months to prepare their equipment. There is no reason not to count the start of the regular season. It certainly counts in every other sport. I can almost see not counting racing in AZ (All of the best are not there, and they go off rules from the previous year) but Speedweeks is the official start to the season.
Thanks,
Jeff.
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Nobody said they speak for you or any of the other people complaining. Its not like the list is official or means anything beyond website clicks and a few shares on Twitter. It gets a lot of attention because most of us respect their opinion and they back up most all of their decisions with facts.Originally posted by Clayton_Wetter View PostSo who decided DoD was entitled to speak for everyone? Just themselves, that's who.
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Speed Sport must have gotten it wrong also.https://speedsport.com/media/videos/...ower-rankings/
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I didn't say throw it out. But clearly, one small time frame was given a huge statistical overweight when considering head to head performance. That has to be acknowledged when throwing the numbers out there.Originally posted by W2Racing09 View PostIf February does not count then why should April, or June, or August? Bloomquist and Richards raced together 23 times throughout the ENTIRE season (from when it started until when it ended) and Richards beat him 16 times out of 23 races.
But just to put your mind at ease.
If we don't consider Speedweeks at all (Richards finished ahead of Bloomquist 3 times at Golden Isles, 3 times at Eastbay and once at Ocala, then he beat Bloomquist twice at Volusia and Bloomquist beat Richards twice at Volusia). If you remove all of those races it will bring the total for the remainder of the year to 12 total races and Richards beating Bloomquist by a margin of 7 to 5 if my math is correct.
However like I said before, the checks cash the same, the points count the same and all the drivers show up after having several months to prepare their equipment. There is no reason not to count the start of the regular season. It certainly counts in every other sport. I can almost see not counting racing in AZ (All of the best are not there, and they go off rules from the previous year) but Speedweeks is the official start to the season.
Thanks,
Jeff.Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing
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I don't think they weighted February races anymore than July races or September races. I think you are saying that a race in February should be worth less than a race in July, which I disagree with. Every race, all year should be weighted based on the purse, strength of field, etc. not the month within which it occurs.Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View PostI didn't say throw it out. But clearly, one small time frame was given a huge statistical overweight when considering head to head performance. That has to be acknowledged when throwing the numbers out there.
Are you saying February should matter less because so many races occur close together and that if someone is more prepared they will be better at all races since there are no breaks? I think that is a big part of racing, if Bloomquist was less prepared going into Speedweeks then that is on him.
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The vote is driver of the year. If half your data comes from Feb, it is overweighted. Yes, Richards invested more into Feb than anyone. But that isn't really most of the argument.Originally posted by W2Racing09 View PostI don't think they weighted February races anymore than July races or September races. I think you are saying that a race in February should be worth less than a race in July, which I disagree with. Every race, all year should be weighted based on the purse, strength of field, etc. not the month within which it occurs.
Are you saying February should matter less because so many races occur close together and that if someone is more prepared they will be better at all races since there are no breaks? I think that is a big part of racing, if Bloomquist was less prepared going into Speedweeks then that is on him.Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing
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How do you see half of the data coming from February?Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View PostThe vote is driver of the year. If half your data comes from Feb, it is overweighted. Yes, Richards invested more into Feb than anyone. But that isn't really most of the argument.
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Jeff.
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Top 3
I think the top 3 is spot on.Up in the air who my next “favorite†driver is. Really losing hope on Bloomer getting anywhere back to “normalâ€.
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How'd Scott do at Eldora?Originally posted by Centeroff View PostAll right fryefan. How was he clearly the driver of the year? Besides the Pittsburgher what did he do? Flopped at the world, dream, DTWC, firecracker, and others. You have to win the big ones to say clearly. I can't say he wasn't the best this year but he definatly wasn't clearly the nations top driver. I'm a zero fan but I can't say he was clearly the best either. I think the 1 and zero were clearly the top 2 but could have went either way. Fact is Josh is only gonna get better and my boy Scott is probably on the downside. Let's just hope we get to see them racing each other for the Lucas oil title next season! Tell you the truth, I hope TMac or a sleeper wins it.Up in the air who my next “favorite†driver is. Really losing hope on Bloomer getting anywhere back to “normalâ€.
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