Cody Sommer

[Barbecueboy]

Anyone that really thought 400 cars were going to show up were huffing unicorn farts with Hillary, Putin, and the DNC.....

There were many.........remember several lively debates about it when it was announced they were full.

Being said, that's a pile of cars there .......anybody lucky enough to be there should see a great show.

[zyoung25]

16oz I'm hoping?

It is aluminum bottles. Annnnnd yet another why I don't drink. But food isn't cheap either. A pack of m&ms and Dr Pepper cost me $10. I don't blame the promoters for that though. They dont sit the prices on that stuff.

[calverton]

Yep 7 bucks for a soda and food selection was sh1t no wonder the rams moved lol

[tb1545]

yea listening to some of the interviews with the promoters, I think one of their biggest headaches have been with the policies and things that the venue has set. They mentioned union labor required for something as simple as hanging the banners so im sure theres probably union labor and set pricing for the food and beer that the racing promoters have little to no control over.

Thursday night was a glorified hot lap/ practice night for both the drivers and the track prep crew and the event as a whole. I personally like how they ran it. everyone got practice laps in and they qualified at the same time. They got to test and see how cars and the track surface would react. They got to see how people race on it.
Everyone learned something Thursday that will make friday and saturday a better show.

I personally feel that what the promotors can control so far they have knocked it out of the park.
My issue from day 1 was always the fumes and if the venue could handle it. I think that will be the number 1 issue that makes or breaks this event.
But so far tip your caps to the promoters for the job theyve done and the cajones they have for trying.

[calverton]

I think one round of time trails would 've helped out also or maybe next pill draw both Thursday and Friday with combine results by points

[zyoung25]

yea listening to some of the interviews with the promoters, I think one of their biggest headaches have been with the policies and things that the venue has set. They mentioned union labor required for something as simple as hanging the banners so im sure theres probably union labor and set pricing for the food and beer that the racing promoters have little to no control over.

Thursday night was a glorified hot lap/ practice night for both the drivers and the track prep crew and the event as a whole. I personally like how they ran it. everyone got practice laps in and they qualified at the same time. They got to test and see how cars and the track surface would react. They got to see how people race on it.
Everyone learned something Thursday that will make friday and saturday a better show.

I personally feel that what the promotors can control so far they have knocked it out of the park.
My issue from day 1 was always the fumes and if the venue could handle it. I think that will be the number 1 issue that makes or breaks this event.
But so far tip your caps to the promoters for the job theyve done and the cajones they have for trying.

I completely agree with everything in this post. Heat 5 pretty much ran straight through without any cautions. Little to no fumes. I seen in a facebook comment, that there were guys sitting in the stands with radios tell the track crew when to shut it down and give time to let the fumes exit the building.

People that are b!ctching are not even there. That's what I don't understand. There were a good bit people that hung it out last and watched everything. Me and my buddy was one of them.

It will be very interesting to say the least I think.

[WisWildManFan]

Sounds to me like they opened flood gates last nights for fumes and that made it a lot better. If rather have it 20 degrees colder and keep show moving. Track got pretty good last night heat 7 and 8. Bigger tires should mean more traction and I know gundaker will try to eliminate catfish choo choo tonight.

[vande077]

yea listening to some of the interviews with the promoters, I think one of their biggest headaches have been with the policies and things that the venue has set. They mentioned union labor required for something as simple as hanging the banners so im sure theres probably union labor and set pricing for the food and beer that the racing promoters have little to no control over.

Thursday night was a glorified hot lap/ practice night for both the drivers and the track prep crew and the event as a whole. I personally like how they ran it. everyone got practice laps in and they qualified at the same time. They got to test and see how cars and the track surface would react. They got to see how people race on it.
Everyone learned something Thursday that will make friday and saturday a better show.

I personally feel that what the promotors can control so far they have knocked it out of the park.
My issue from day 1 was always the fumes and if the venue could handle it. I think that will be the number 1 issue that makes or breaks this event.
But so far tip your caps to the promoters for the job theyve done and the cajones they have for trying.

Ok, so they are complaining about union labor at the convention center? That is something they should have known when they announced this (actually before when they were negotiating with the venue) in January.

Concessions, all venues like this do their own concessions no matter what the entertainment (concerts, Supercross, NFL, Home shows, etc., etc.). Again, they should have known about prices and such a long time ago (and for any fans that act blindsided by the prices obviously haven't attended a concert, minor league hockey, basketball, baseball or a Pro Game (NFL, NBA, NHL), or a concert of any type in the last 20 years.

As far as the emission controls go, they should have known going in that they couldn't compare Supercross in the Dome to racing full size cars in the dome. It doesn't take a scientist to figure out that cars with 800HP and 8 cylinders are going to create more CO2 than 250cc and 4500cc dirt bikes.

Not there so I can't speak to the racing, but that's what the promotors should be judged upon. Start time, efficiently ran, limited down time and adequate safety for fans and competitors alike.

This is their first try in this venue and the venue itself NEEDS the event as much if not more due to the fact that they lost their major tenant last season when the Rams headed back to LA. IF they can make year 1 successful, and they can build it year after year eventually all the complaints about the other things (union labor, concessions, emmissions) will go away as they will learn what to do to improve.

The Chili Bowl wasn't a raving success in year #1 either (57 cars, not a lot of fans), but since they are on year 26 everyone has forgotten that fact.

[WisWildManFan]

$8.50 for 16 oz bottles as well.

[ptown]

Sounds like things are going much better today.

[thexfactor0210]

Great heat racing today. Side by side racing. Last two heats ran caution free

[Barbecueboy]

Ok, so they are complaining about union labor at the convention center? That is something they should have known when they announced this (actually before when they were negotiating with the venue) in January.

Concessions, all venues like this do their own concessions no matter what the entertainment (concerts, Supercross, NFL, Home shows, etc., etc.). Again, they should have known about prices and such a long time ago (and for any fans that act blindsided by the prices obviously haven't attended a concert, minor league hockey, basketball, baseball or a Pro Game (NFL, NBA, NHL), or a concert of any type in the last 20 years.

As far as the emission controls go, they should have known going in that they couldn't compare Supercross in the Dome to racing full size cars in the dome. It doesn't take a scientist to figure out that cars with 800HP and 8 cylinders are going to create more CO2 than 250cc and 4500cc dirt bikes.

Not there so I can't speak to the racing, but that's what the promotors should be judged upon. Start time, efficiently ran, limited down time and adequate safety for fans and competitors alike.

This is their first try in this venue and the venue itself NEEDS the event as much if not more due to the fact that they lost their major tenant last season when the Rams headed back to LA. IF they can make year 1 successful, and they can build it year after year eventually all the complaints about the other things (union labor, concessions, emmissions) will go away as they will learn what to do to improve.

The Chili Bowl wasn't a raving success in year #1 either (57 cars, not a lot of fans), but since they are on year 26 everyone has forgotten that fact.

Union guy I take it?

[vande077]

Union guy I take it?

Just been to enough Trade Shows in my lifetime to know that 99% of Convention Centers use Union Labor and it's part of using/renting the facility. It's a fact and very well known to anyone that has ever displayed or been part of a big convention (SEMA and PRI both use Union Labor as well).

[flagone]

I have been involved with setting up booths at PRI or IMIS on 5 or 6 occasions and never had to use union labor at all.

[vande077]

I have been involved with setting up booths at PRI or IMIS on 5 or 6 occasions and never had to use union labor at all.

Maybe the organizers have paid the venue to not have to use it, but I doubt it. SEMA and all shows in Vegas use Union Labor, as does the Florida Convention Center in Orlando as well. My guess is PRI and IMIS used it, but you don't realize it.

They usually are the ones that unload every truck and deliver your items to your booth (and then you are allowed to set it up yourself once it's to your booth). When it comes to banners my guess is they are the only ones allowed to use the manlifts and such needed to place the banners (these convention halls are under OSHA scrutiny, they can't just let Jimmy Joe climb the fence to put up a banner).

I brought an item with me to the International Builders Show one year in Vegas. I carried it to the dock then a Union Worker had to transport it to our booth so we could take it out of the box and display it.

In the grand scheme of things they actually make things go smoother in these huge convention halls as they have multiple shifts and unload trucks 24/7 for load in and then do the same after the convention is over (they bring your crates to your booth, you load up the crates and then they get them to the semi's for shipment back (especially the really big booths that take multiple semi's to transport).