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  • Josh Bayko
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 8757

    #121
    Why are you talking to yourself?
    Follow me on Twitter: @JoshBayko

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    • harborfreighthero
      Junior Member
      • Jan 2017
      • 14

      #122
      sorry first post here, but why would you want to harden soft tires? to pass a durometer test?

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      • Bubstr
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2008
        • 3734

        #123
        Originally posted by harborfreighthero View Post
        sorry first post here, but why would you want to harden soft tires? to pass a durometer test?
        Good question, If you had a soft 20 rule and worried about wear. Harder tires flex less, flex causes heat and heat causes wear. Cooking the 20 would reduce flex, therefore reducing wear.

        Grooving and sypeing creates more edges, but also flex. Sometimes you want more edges and don't want to give up wear. Especially for tracks that don't clean off easily.

        For the black ice tracks, you may want less grooves and more surface area. If it's abrasive, cook it. If not keep them soft. There are 50 million combinations to choose from. It's just fine tuning the tire.

        From the hints we got from the Dream's illegal tires, these guys didn't expect to get busted for something missing. They probably just cooked something out of them. or got a special run tire from distributor. Too bad the rule said must meet the benchmark, not no added chemicals.

        I don't think anyone really knows, what rules are best for the sport. If someone has a better idea, it should be allowed. If that idea costs too much or is dangerous, cut it. I don't think every racer should have to drive a cookie cutter car and turn the racing into NASCAR snooze fests.

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        • harborfreighthero
          Junior Member
          • Jan 2017
          • 14

          #124
          Originally posted by Bubstr View Post
          Good question, If you had a soft 20 rule and worried about wear. Harder tires flex less, flex causes heat and heat causes wear. Cooking the 20 would reduce flex, therefore reducing wear.Grooving and sypeing creates more edges, but also flex. Sometimes you want more edges and don't want to give up wear. Especially for tracks that don't clean off easily.For the black ice tracks, you may want less grooves and more surface area. If it's abrasive, cook it. If not keep them soft. There are 50 million combinations to choose from. It's just fine tuning the tire.From the hints we got from the Dream's illegal tires, these guys didn't expect to get busted for something missing. They probably just cooked something out of them. or got a special run tire from distributor. Too bad the rule said must meet the benchmark, not no added chemicals.I don't think anyone really knows, what rules are best for the sport. If someone has a better idea, it should be allowed. If that idea costs too much or is dangerous, cut it. I don't think every racer should have to drive a cookie cutter car and turn the racing into NASCAR snooze fests.
          Thank you for the explanation. I agree that its hard to come up with the perfect solution, and also we don't want the rules to make it cookie cutter and have to drive a cookie cutter car. With the grinding and siping I see sometimes, I wonder who actually knows what it does or if its just to do what the next guy is doing. Not in the big time DLM world or anything but the local racer, I'm sure the big time guys know more of what they are doing or what they are trying to achieve than the local guy

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          • Nasty55
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2011
            • 2611

            #125
            Originally posted by harborfreighthero View Post
            sorry first post here, but why would you want to harden soft tires? to pass a durometer test?


            Yeah first post my A$$..... Maybe first post on a new user name...... Just sayin
            If you can't race it or take it to bed! It ain't worth having!

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            • oldfart50
              Banned
              • Aug 2015
              • 252

              #126
              Originally posted by harborfreighthero View Post
              sorry first post here, but why would you want to harden soft tires? to pass a durometer test?
              Everyone has to have a first post at some point, no need to be sorry about it...

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              • Barbecueboy
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2013
                • 18116

                #127
                Originally posted by Josh Bayko View Post
                Why are you talking to yourself?
                You were a little early on this one Josh.........I think it fits now......see above

                I do like the screenname though, pretty creative.
                Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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                • harborfreighthero
                  Junior Member
                  • Jan 2017
                  • 14

                  #128
                  I have never posted here before and just found this site and reading about two weeks ago. Not trying to stir anyone on here.

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                  • Nasty55
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2011
                    • 2611

                    #129
                    Originally posted by harborfreighthero View Post
                    I have never posted here before and just found this site and reading about two weeks ago. Not trying to stir anyone on here.



                    I apologize then harborfreight just seemed like your point of posting here the first time was something alot of us had seen and heard before from a certain poster before is all... Enjoy and have some fun up around here bud...
                    If you can't race it or take it to bed! It ain't worth having!

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                    • SLIDING SIDEWAYS
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 7658

                      #130
                      Originally posted by harborfreighthero View Post
                      I have never posted here before and just found this site and reading about two weeks ago. Not trying to stir anyone on here.

                      Thats my job !!! Welcome to 4m hfhero!
                      THE REAL SLIDING SIDEWAYS!

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                      • Barbecueboy
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 18116

                        #131
                        Still say the screenname is great........I can relate.
                        Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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                        • Josh Bayko
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2007
                          • 8757

                          #132
                          Originally posted by Barbecueboy View Post
                          You were a little early on this one Josh.........I think it fits now......see above

                          I do like the screenname though, pretty creative.
                          No, Litey had one post, than another answering himself under the same screen name. He clearly deleted them after I called him out on it.
                          Follow me on Twitter: @JoshBayko

                          Guerrilla Racing Junkies!

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                          • calverton
                            Banned
                            • Sep 2016
                            • 1591

                            #133
                            yes that's right the quote I wanted did 'nt come thru, it happens

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                            • Barbecueboy
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2013
                              • 18116

                              #134
                              Originally posted by calverton View Post
                              yes that's right the quote I wanted did 'nt come thru, it happens
                              Everybody gets tripped up every now and agin......no big deal
                              Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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                              • harborfreighthero
                                Junior Member
                                • Jan 2017
                                • 14

                                #135
                                Originally posted by Nasty55 View Post
                                I apologize then harborfreight just seemed like your point of posting here the first time was something alot of us had seen and heard before from a certain poster before is all... Enjoy and have some fun up around here bud...
                                No worries, I just read through the thread and decided to finally make an account to ask some questions
                                Originally posted by SLIDING SIDEWAYS View Post
                                Thats my job !!! Welcome to 4m hfhero!
                                Thanks man!
                                Originally posted by Barbecueboy View Post
                                Still say the screenname is great........I can relate.
                                haha had a harbor freight flyer right in front of me and was making a list of the cool top shelf quality (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) I don't need in it haha and it came to me!

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