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  • Centeroff
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2016
    • 1896

    #1

    Swartz

    Little before my time but I remember my uncle talking about chargin Charley with a mid engine late model in the early 80s. Does anyone remember if he had any success in the mid engine car? I remember when I first started going racing that if you weren't in a wedge car you weren't winning but have no memory of the mid engine ride he designed. Anyone with info, I'd appreciate some history.
  • CGF
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 675

    #2

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    • kidrock
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 16427

      #3
      Man I'm sorry but, that's one ugly ride.

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      • zyoung25
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2007
        • 8955

        #4
        That thing was a land yacht. Even though it is indeed ugly....man that thing is bad. I seen it a few years ago at the north south when they recreated it. I was amazed at how big it was.

        Anyone know how muchnit weighed?

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        • Centeroff
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2016
          • 1896

          #5
          I was really curious about how the car performed on the track? Couldn't have been a world beater but does anyone know if he ever won any races with this design? I did a little research and all I could figure out is that the chassis was more than likely a bullit chassis. That's all I got

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          • MI Dirt Fan
            Banned
            • May 2007
            • 8806

            #6
            Reminds me of these. I remember when they they used to televise these races on TNN (Spike channel now) back in the day. Can't remember if it was friday nights or saturday nights.

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            • intel8
              Senior Member
              • May 2008
              • 827

              #7
              The original car is in Minnesota, owner of one of the dirt tracks up there has possession of it. It was recently on a Facebook post along with a lot of the history of it. There were two cars built like this. I will try to find the post on it.

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              • nuff said
                Senior Member
                • May 2007
                • 1348

                #8
                It seems like Loy Allen Jr was in the other one ?

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                • intel8
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2008
                  • 827

                  #9
                  20/20 Racing history on Facebook, or search type: Swartz mid engine, Pretty cool piece of racing history. I would love to drive that thing.

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                  • Kromulous
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 3008

                    #10
                    It was seriously fast, it was the car that made Wedge cars Illegal, the straw that broke the camels back.

                    The story was told to me was, Charlie had a driveshaft let go on him in a normal Wedge, and i think he got injured. Anyway, pissed him off and him and Ray Callahan of Bullet Chassis set out to design something safer and came up with this.

                    Just say no...

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                    • Clayton_Wetter
                      Banned
                      • May 2007
                      • 16671

                      #11
                      If made legal MR race cars would dominate, easily.

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                      • chupp n bloomer fan
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2007
                        • 11526

                        #12
                        Originally posted by nuff said View Post
                        It seems like Loy Allen Jr was in the other one ?
                        Yes he was.
                        Up in the air who my next “favorite” driver is. Really losing hope on Bloomer getting anywhere back to “normal”.

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                        • SLIDING SIDEWAYS
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 7658

                          #13
                          They had that car at this passed world finals. I didnt get to see it run as i was in the pits as they were backing it in there spot.
                          THE REAL SLIDING SIDEWAYS!

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                          • Raceready
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2015
                            • 4737

                            #14
                            Charley said how he liked how he could dive in deeper on the car in front because you could see better sitting up front like that.

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