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  • plunks7
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2007
    • 3274

    #31
    Originally posted by Highside Hustler25 View Post
    prescription?
    Yes, you know me to well HH. Nice catch.

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    • huskerdirt
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2011
      • 5620

      #32
      Originally posted by Stede Bonnet
      OnlyFacts and yet your making an, "assumption of guilt" with nothing but a refusal to comply... Why does it have to be guiltiness? Why can't it be taking a stand for principle? These drivers are NOT employees working for the sanction, they are independent business owners and like I pointed out before, a test at the track isn't going to stop you from competing against someone possibly being under the influence. Maybe next week you all will feel safer, but I don't trust either sanction to be fair and honest, they've already demonstrated a knee-jerk style to rule making and ignorance when it comes to suspension rules and character issues in regards to tire testing. I personally don't drink or use drugs, but I am a libertarian who doesn't go for being pushed around.

      Stede
      Once you get a DirtCar/WoO license you are basically an employee of that organization. You agree to the terms and conditions of that organization. Don't like the fact you are subjected to random testing? Don't race with that organization. It's not that hard.

      You think nobody is doing stuff..... I give you Tim Kaeding.

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      • TBSprintFan
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2016
        • 614

        #33
        Originally posted by Centeroff
        I disagree with the random drug tests. Not only does it violate ones constitutional rights but you can actually get false positives and ruin a mans reputation. If a driver is out there trashed out of his mind and causing accidents then I'm all for it. The only reason they are doing this is because Randy Sweet made headlines and they know him and Scott are close. WOO and WRG has a hard on for Scott and will do anything to keep from paying that suit. They are only costing themselves money because love or hate the man, he draws a crowd! I guarantee they all drink, chew tobacco or smoke cigarettes themselves. Those are all drugs but they are legal because our government makes so much tax profit from these drugs. I am personally randomly drug tested at work and I hate it every time. I've been with the company 12 years and never failed one test and I will never and they know that but they test me to cover for their pot smoking buddies. I'm all for safety but you can spot a doper a mile away. Even though I understand the concept, in no way shape or form am I a fan.
        Its all not about Scott or probably not about him at all, it is more in regards to the instance between Tony Stewart and Kevin Ward Jr. and those pending lawsuits. Here is a quote from the article below "Stewart already has been exonerated once. A grand jury heard testimony in September and needed less than an hour of deliberation to determine not to charge Stewart in the death of Ward, who had enough marijuana in his system to influence his actions, according to the district attorney."
        This is why you need drug testing, tracks, series and drivers cannot afford to have these type of lawsuits against them.

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        • onlyfacts
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2014
          • 395

          #34
          Originally posted by Stede Bonnet
          OnlyFacts and yet your making an, "assumption of guilt" with nothing but a refusal to comply... Why does it have to be guiltiness? Why can't it be taking a stand for principle? These drivers are NOT employees working for the sanction, they are independent business owners and like I pointed out before, a test at the track isn't going to stop you from competing against someone possibly being under the influence. Maybe next week you all will feel safer, but I don't trust either sanction to be fair and honest, they've already demonstrated a knee-jerk style to rule making and ignorance when it comes to suspension rules and character issues in regards to tire testing. I personally don't drink or use drugs, but I am a libertarian who doesn't go for being pushed around.Stede
          All the racers that race for any sanctioning body or race track are there working for prize monies. They receive a 1099 at the end of the year for there services. So maybe you should check your facts. With that being said WRG, Lucas or any sanctioning group or track has the right to drug test. If a racer feels like he doesn't want to be checked then he needs to choose where he races. The sanctioning bodies govern the sport and they should be checking these drivers for their own safety as well as the other competitors. There is no defense otherwise if something happens. But you have that right not to participate. But you will see Lucas and others following suit because they can't afford the liability. Great move by WRG.

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          • Barbecueboy
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2013
            • 18116

            #35
            Originally posted by Highside Hustler25 View Post
            Drugs are illegal. Alcohol is not. Just sayin
            Alcohol is a drug hh......
            Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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            • Highside Hustler25
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2009
              • 12917

              #36
              Originally posted by Barbecueboy View Post
              Alcohol is a drug hh......
              ...but not illegal. Perfectly fine post race.
              8/13/16

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              • a25rjr
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2016
                • 3774

                #37
                Originally posted by Barbecueboy View Post
                Alcohol is a drug hh......
                Then, I was a heckuva addict in my early years!
                Turn LEFT, Vote RIGHT!

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                • SHOE32
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 389

                  #38
                  Not trying to start anything, but everybody is accusing others of doing drugs or not running WoO because they will fail a drug test. Has anybody stopped to consider the odd circumstances that Josh Richards abruptly bails to Lucas Oil Series the same season drug testing starts. Why is it that he never gets criticized . Doesn't anyone else think that is kinda strange.

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                  • Highside Hustler25
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 12917

                    #39
                    Originally posted by SHOE32 View Post
                    Not trying to start anything, but everybody is accusing others of doing drugs or not running WoO because they will fail a drug test. Has anybody stopped to consider the odd circumstances that Josh Richards abruptly bails to Lucas Oil Series the same season drug testing starts. Why is it that he never gets criticized . Doesn't anyone else think that is kinda strange.
                    Josh Richards????lolHe's as clean as a new toothbrush. Are you serious or just playin?
                    8/13/16

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                    • oldfart50
                      Banned
                      • Aug 2015
                      • 252

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Centeroff
                      Richards isn't on any drugs and I would bet the farm on that. I would say 90% of the drivers are clean all the time and maybe that 10% could party here and there. These guys race for a living and your not gonna be able to control a 900 HP racecar high as a kite. Also, these haters can say what they want about Scott but he isn't a druggie people. When Scott isn't working on racecars he is usually at the reservoir down the road fishing with friends or his daughter. Just listen to the man in an interview after a race or look into his eyes. People love to down other people on the internet because they know they can't get their a$$es whipped behind a computer screen. Some of you guys need to grow up. Calling a man with a family "snort" really?? What if his daughter or mother decide to get on here and read what you haters have to say?? Say it to his face or don't say it at all!
                      Where in this entire post did someone call him "snort"?

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                      • latemodelman
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 1361

                        #41
                        I think that its a good idea to do the tests. But I will say when you have a driver hurt and he is on pain meds and racing such as Chub Frank or say a Steve Francis or someone like that and they fail because of the pain killers then what? I mean I have seen pain meds cause a negative test but then when the person said hey I am on pain meds they pass. So a driver can fail a drug test and still be able to race as long as he has a doctors note for a prescription.

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                        • latemodelman
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 1361

                          #42
                          One other thing I would rather they focus more on the drivers hurting their necks and backs than the drug tests. I still say they need to focus on roof heights and stuff like that before they work on the drugs part.

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                          • RRRKKK
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2007
                            • 227

                            #43
                            What constitutional rights???? you run their sanction you play their rules.

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                            • pap
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2007
                              • 341

                              #44
                              I would be ok if the test determined something in your body at that moment that they peed in a cup. What I don't like, they can have a tooth pulled on Wednesday, take prescribed pain meds on Thursday, and fail a drug test on Saturday.

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                              • Barbecueboy
                                Senior Member
                                • Mar 2013
                                • 18116

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Highside Hustler25 View Post
                                ...but not illegal. Perfectly fine post race.
                                In some states there are other things that are perfectly legal post race.......
                                Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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