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  • mccreadiefan39
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2008
    • 801

    #1

    Kudos to the drivers for voting it a non-points race

    Top 14 in Lucas points unanimously voted to make last nights a-main a non points paying event and only show up points were awarded. No one (drivers, crews, fans, series officials) want a points championship possibly decided by a luck of the draw of who breaks and who doesn't on a track that was an absolute plowed cornfield from lap 1 of hotlaps.
  • MasterSbilt_Racer
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 14310

    #2
    Bunch of sissies... Did they call Davenport for his vote?
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    • zach51
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2008
      • 1362

      #3
      I thought the whole point of a points championship is to reward the guy who runs all the races, goes through adversity, and has more ups than they do downs. That's why it is a "season" long award. Its April, if you had hard luck last night then just make up for it somewhere else. I know that most of the guys on the tour are over 40, and even 50, and don't want to bounce around that much, but it looks like the younger guys weren't scared to run. Rocket cars handled the rough just fine apparently, even Flinner. There is a steering wheel and a brake pedal in most of those cars, drive around the holes.

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      • onlyfacts
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2014
        • 395

        #4
        Originally posted by mccreadiefan39 View Post
        Top 14 in Lucas points unanimously voted to make last nights a-main a non points paying event and only show up points were awarded. No one (drivers, crews, fans, series officials) want a points championship possibly decided by a luck of the draw of who breaks and who doesn't on a track that was an absolute plowed cornfield from lap 1 of hotlaps.
        Isn't all championship based on a little luck, who breaks and who doesn't... what about when someone has a bad points night when the track rubbers and they blow a tire... the drivers and series don't get together and say well Scott blew out with 2 to go and we need to take the points off because the conditions changed the out come of the race. I bet if McCreadie would of won and,Josh and Bloomquist had trouble you would have been complaining about it being a non points race... don't make bias comments like this when your user name is mccreadiefan39. All races should be points when racing for a championship it shows who was best prepared for all conditions.. now the Lucas championship is tainted just like WOO is.

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        • Cardirt0
          Banned
          • May 2007
          • 5271

          #5
          If WoO drivers did this people be screaming bloody murder.....NFL it was raining to hard this game don't count.....

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          • onlyfacts
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2014
            • 395

            #6
            [QUOTE=onlyfacts;2099523]Isn't all championship based on a little luck, who breaks and who doesn't... what about when someone has a bad points night when the track rubbers and they blow a tire... the drivers and series don't get together and say well Scott blew out with 2 to go and we need to take the points off because the conditions changed the out come of the race. I bet if McCreadie would of won and,Josh and Bloomquist had trouble you would have been complaining about it being a non points race... don't make bias comments like this when your user name is mccreadiefan39. All races should be points when racing for a championship it shows who was best prepared for all conditions.. now the Lucas championship is tainted just like WOO is. Lucas Racers that shorted the fans last night by pulling off are a bunch of pussies. QUOTE]

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            • Josh Bayko
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 8737

              #7
              Originally posted by Cardirt0 View Post
              If WoO drivers did this people be screaming bloody murder.....NFL it was raining to hard this game don't count.....
              The WoO did do this last year at Rockford. There was a lot of b*tching.
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              • zach51
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2008
                • 1362

                #8
                WOO did it in Florida this year too but that was a little different, nobody could see to drive (supposedly).

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                • a25rjr
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2016
                  • 3774

                  #9
                  Originally posted by zach51 View Post
                  WOO did it in Florida this year too but that was a little different, nobody could see to drive (supposedly).
                  I was there, they couldn't!

                  As for the race last nite, it didn't look that terrible, but then again I wasn't there.
                  Turn LEFT, Vote RIGHT!

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                  • TS FAN
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 4236

                    #10
                    I do not have a dog in this fight. But I do not think track conditions and championship points should affect a season long championship. If it is a points race on the schedule, then it is for points IMO

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                    • ClampedUp
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2007
                      • 1131

                      #11
                      I'm guessing if a bunch of you numskulls get out your checkbooks and hand these drivers a check for say $50k-$100k they will be more than happy to demolish their equipment on a track that was better suited for the Lucas Oil Off Road Series.
                      As long as the drivers and or team owners are paying the bills they can d@mn well do as they please with their equipment.
                      They all should have grown a set of balls and loaded them up on the trailer when they seen the track was a mess......

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                      • zach51
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 1362

                        #12
                        Seems like the ones that "grown a set of balls" were out there standing on the loud pedal and racing the distance.

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                        • zyoung25
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 8945

                          #13
                          I can see both sides of the deal. It is dirt racing, and this could happen with the track falling apart a lot more than it does. This is the highest level of DLM racing and I don't really agree with it. I know these sports are not anywhere the same. In mx racing they deal the elements of the track being rough, and even race in the making for dangerous conditions to race in. It just happened at the last race. They shortened the race by 5 mins (which is normally 20mins) but they didn't change the points structure any. Maybe they should've shortened the race to 25 or 30 laps instead of making the guys run all 50 and not making it a points race.

                          It was a lose/lose situation for everyone that was there drivers, crews, and fans. No one was really going to walk away happy, except for the winning team.

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                          • Darwin
                            Member
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 47

                            #14
                            Originally posted by ClampedUp View Post
                            I'm guessing if a bunch of you numskulls get out your checkbooks and hand these drivers a check for say $50k-$100k they will be more than happy to demolish their equipment on a track that was better suited for the Lucas Oil Off Road Series.
                            As long as the drivers and or team owners are paying the bills they can d@mn well do as they please with their equipment.
                            They all should have grown a set of balls and loaded them up on the trailer when they seen the track was a mess......
                            Please...

                            Have any of these guys ever voted for a show-up points only race when the track was a locked down, single lane POS? Have any of these guys ever voted for a show-up points only race at Charlotte when the track was in worse condition than Sharon was last night? I am guessing "no". I will stand corrected if otherwise.

                            If you want perfect conditions every night, find something else to do. Otherwise you will be whining a lot and racing for a lot of show-up points.

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                            • MI Dirt Fan
                              Banned
                              • May 2007
                              • 8806

                              #15
                              Obviously Lucas didn't find the track acceptable to race on if they agreed with the drivers to hold a vote.

                              Like I said before, everyone's quick to complain because they aren't the ones footing the bills for these rides. Flinner made $1300 I believe. He was still running at the end but probly cost him $3000+ in wear and tear. And not to knock him but that's a guy who is committed to running the whole tour but requires a provisional every week.

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