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  • Highside Hustler25
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2009
    • 12950

    #16
    Originally posted by MaverickSprints View Post
    Maybe, but I think your ignorant of DLM economics and the difference in perspective of racing for fun and racing to put food on your table. The guys involved in tiregate aren't on their way someplace else, DLM is "IT" for them, Eldora and WRG are a big part of the economy of the DLM world. What would you tell a prospective sponsor who may want exposure at the World 100, "sorry I can't go there". I wish they would have collectively taken it further at least miss 1 year of racing there to amp up the pressure on WRG to man up, but I think deals were made behind the scenes if they agreed to sign on the line. I don't think any fines have been paid, I think this is a quiet political way to make an awkward situation go away.
    You could be right but I personally think some guys were falsely advised by some greasy lawyers that they could win the case and then found out it was above their pay grade.
    8/13/16

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    • fryefan
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 3547

      #17
      Originally posted by NormP View Post
      If anyone believes it is for the fans, I've got some oceanfront property in Arizona for sale.
      I agree. It has little, to nothing, to do with the fans.

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      • fryefan
        Senior Member
        • May 2007
        • 3547

        #18
        Originally posted by donavon View Post
        If the racers were innocent...Would they really want to race there? Think about it...If they really got screwed, would they pay a fine and sign the papers and then get done wrong again? Looks to me like they were guilty as charged..
        My thoughts exactly. They think if they proclaim their innocence long enough, then maybe someone will believe them.

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        • NormP
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2011
          • 2262

          #19
          I feel the same way about this as I do about steroids in pro sports. If it makes the action more exciting for the fan, I'm all for it. Let them dope their tires all they want and may the best man win.

          On the other hand I don't think any of these guys are truly innocent, so that line of bull doesn't cut it. I don't know how secure the lab testing is, but they're probably messing with the tires in the hauler or at the shop. But I don't care if they cheat the tires. They're looking for the competitive edge and from what I'm given to understand, tires are a huge cost, so it makes sense they would want to get the most out of each one.

          It just doesn't move the needle much for me either way beyond something interesting to talk about. Let them have their fun with the tires, but as drivers I expect them not to piss on me and tell me it's raining, which is what they're doing when they say "ohh it's for the fans, the poor fans are so cheated that 4-5 of us won't be at Eldora...." And WRG give us a break--you guys aren't exactly pure as the driven snow.
          Last edited by NormP; 04-25-2017, 08:08 PM.

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          • Barbecueboy
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2013
            • 18116

            #20
            Originally posted by Shiny Side Up 18 View Post
            Even if you're innocent, it would cost you more money to keep fighting it than it would to just take your medicine and move on.
            "Which is the way he wants it.......well, he gets it"
            Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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            • Barbecueboy
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2013
              • 18116

              #21
              Originally posted by NormP View Post
              I feel the same way about this as I do about steroids in pro sports. If it makes the action more exciting for the fan, I'm all for it. Let them dope their tires all they want and may the best man win.

              On the other hand I don't think any of these guys are truly innocent, so that line of bull doesn't cut it. I don't know how secure the lab testing is, but they're probably messing with the tires in the hauler or at the shop. But I don't care if they cheat the tires. They're looking for the competitive edge and from what I'm given to understand, tires are a huge cost, so it makes sense they would want to get the most out of each one.

              It just doesn't move the needle much for me either way beyond something interesting to talk about. Let them have their fun with the tires, but as drivers I expect them not to piss on me and tell me it's raining, which is what they're doing when they say "ohh it's for the fans, the poor fans are so cheated that 4-5 of us won't be at Eldora...." And WRG give us a break--you guys aren't exactly pure as the driven snow.
              Pure as the driven snow.......in Detroit.
              Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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              • Finnfan
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2016
                • 100

                #22
                Originally posted by Barbecueboy View Post
                "Which is the way he wants it.......well, he gets it"
                A thinking man's reference, had to think it through but I get it...one of my favorite movies btw.

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                • MaverickSprints
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2017
                  • 209

                  #23
                  Originally posted by fryefan View Post
                  My thoughts exactly. They think if they proclaim their innocence long enough, then maybe someone will believe them.
                  Lots of us still do. WRG made it real clear not to question their authority when they banned everyone for daring to take them to court and get everything out in the open. Then it became a game of resources and who could afford to go without some income opportunities and keep up the legal fees. They made it real clear that even if the racers won and proved there was something amiss with the testing that they'd never return to WRG events or Eldora. Not many pro-DLM drivers can afford to fight them dollar for dollar, much less explain to sponsors that they can't go race some places because they are banned. It boils down to politics and perception and being a large corporate entity, image to them is everything and they must appear to be in control at all costs.
                  History doesn't always repeat, but it does often rhyme.

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