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  • BloomerHarvickFan
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2007
    • 546

    #31
    Originally posted by onlyfacts View Post
    This isn't 1991 and clearly we don't need to justify anything based on NASCAR. But with that said Best never attempted to change the number or sponsors on the car.. no comparison here.
    Actually it's the same thing exactly. Bodine's car was the exact same car. In fact, the first time it rolled out for qualifying the 11 was taped up to form a very awkward looking 97
    Everyone knew it was Junior's team. Same driver, same crew, same cars, same hauler. Different name listed as the owner.
    That seems to be the case here. Same stuff, different name listed as owner.

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    • MasterSbilt_Racer
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 14320

      #32
      Originally posted by BloomerHarvickFan View Post
      I don't have a working knowledge of how things are handled when a driver signs in for an event. What sort of information are they required to provide the track about the team?
      Is their proof as to who owns the team required to be provided?
      I understand if a driver is banned. That's pretty clear. That guy cannot be on the track.
      How is who owns the "team" proven?
      It is a pretty simple paper form. The info you provide is considered to be correct. Certainly, you don't submit any kind of proof of ownership of the car, hauler, or any piece of equipment. You just fill in the blank for car owner with a name.
      Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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      • onlyfacts
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2014
        • 395

        #33
        Originally posted by BloomerHarvickFan View Post
        Actually it's the same thing exactly. Bodine's car was the exact same car. In fact, the first time it rolled out for qualifying the 11 was taped up to form a very awkward looking 97Everyone knew it was Junior's team. Same driver, same crew, same cars, same hauler. Different name listed as the owner. That seems to be the case here. Same stuff, different name listed as owner.
        Guess you missed the point..... this isn't NASCAR and this isn't 1991.

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        • Kwd1253
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2014
          • 2262

          #34
          Originally posted by onlyfacts View Post
          Guess you missed the point..... this isn't NASCAR and this isn't 1991.
          You are right about that. If Nascar was like 91, I would be fan of Nascar it would be nascrap like it is today.

          To me what I'm gather so far best motorsports found a loophole in the rules. It was legit, for them to enter the race but wrg wasn't having knowing they found the loophole. Wrg is being Nascar changing the rules when ever they feel like it. All parties are to blamed across the board.

          Bet your ass if this was Eldora, wrg wouldn't drop their events there. Knowing Tony don't need them to promote his track. Wrg trying strong arm la salla at the end of the day, Because best motorsports found a loophole.

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          • dirtdobber45
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2015
            • 7226

            #35
            If you think WRG is in the wrong on this dont go to their shows. Go to LaSalle and support Izzo. If you think Izzo and Best is in the wrong dont support them. Simple as that
            If I havent offended you please be patient Ill get to you as soon as I can...... and yes Im a Bloomquist fan...deal w it!!! WWG1WGA!!!

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            • cgrace
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2013
              • 903

              #36
              Originally posted by Kwd1253 View Post
              You are right about that. If Nascar was like 91, I would be fan of Nascar it would be nascrap like it is today.To me what I'm gather so far best motorsports found a loophole in the rules. It was legit, for them to enter the race but wrg wasn't having knowing they found the loophole. Wrg is being Nascar changing the rules when ever they feel like it. All parties are to blamed across the board. Bet your ass if this was Eldora, wrg wouldn't drop their events there. Knowing Tony don't need them to promote his track. Wrg trying strong arm la salla at the end of the day, Because best motorsports found a loophole.
              agree completely

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              • Bubstr
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2008
                • 3734

                #37
                Originally posted by latemodelfan View Post
                So true...I read the release and I doubt that Sam did anything other than what he said in the release. He knew what he was doing and it sounds like he made a choice. Tony has never really supported WRG or UMP fully. He runs IMCA stuff and a Lucas race.
                That last sentence is getting down to the meat of the problem here. It may not be stated in the rules that IMCA or LOLM is illegal to have, but it doesn't stop you from punishing some track for putting on that LOLM show. Didn't Farmer City ave a problem similar to this?

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                • Cardirt0
                  Banned
                  • May 2007
                  • 5271

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Bubstr View Post
                  That last sentence is getting down to the meat of the problem here. It may not be stated in the rules that IMCA or LOLM is illegal to have, but it doesn't stop you from punishing some track for putting on that LOLM show. Didn't Farmer City ave a problem similar to this?
                  Yes they Did the Big race coming up at FarmerCity was to be LLM and they were told they lose UMP so they are running it a a Non S show...

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                  • a25rjr
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2016
                    • 3774

                    #39
                    Originally posted by dirtdobber45 View Post
                    If you think WRG is in the wrong on this dont go to their shows. Go to LaSalle and support Izzo. If you think Izzo and Best is in the wrong dont support them. Simple as that
                    And I'll add......let the tracks/series know through email or facebook, why you aren't supporting them!
                    Turn LEFT, Vote RIGHT!

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                    • ptown
                      Banned
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 1906

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Cardirt0 View Post
                      Yes they Did the Big race coming up at FarmerCity was to be LLM and they were told they lose UMP so they are running it a a Non S show...
                      Without a translation I think you're saying Farmer Cirty wanted Lucas Oil or as you say LLM to sanction the May 11/12 race and UMP told them they would lose their UMP sanction if they do that? If so you are as usual full of crap. That show has always been intended to run in conjunction with the UMP MARS ALMS show the following day at Fairbury with those sanctions, Lucas was never even discussed.

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                      • kidrock
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2007
                        • 16427

                        #41
                        At One time I probably would have driven 2 hrs away to support Izzo and not UMP but, today I really don't care enough one way or the other. They are all to be blamed for this one but, I do put more blame on Sam Driggers though. The reason is if you are sanctioning the event then that means you are in charge it's up to you to tell a guy or team he can't run the UMP sanctioned event.

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                        • Bubstr
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 3734

                          #42
                          Originally posted by ptown View Post
                          Without a translation I think you're saying Farmer Cirty wanted Lucas Oil or as you say LLM to sanction the May 11/12 race and UMP told them they would lose their UMP sanction if they do that? If so you are as usual full of crap. That show has always been intended to run in conjunction with the UMP MARS ALMS show the following day at Fairbury with those sanctions, Lucas was never even discussed.
                          Are you saying that this hasn't happened at Farmer City before and that you was privy to all conversations between Farmer city an WRG? You should know what your talking about, before trying to belittle someone that does know. They lost their sanctioning once because of a LOLM race. Now would be a good time to apologize for being rude crude and socially unacceptable.

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                          • Cardirt0
                            Banned
                            • May 2007
                            • 5271

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Bubstr View Post
                            Are you saying that this hasn't happened at Farmer City before and that you was privy to all conversations between Farmer city an WRG? You should know what your talking about, before trying to belittle someone that does know. They lost their sanctioning once because of a LOLM race. Now would be a good time to apologize for being rude crude and socially unacceptable.
                            Hes Just a d!ck head.. I know cause Lance told me...The ILLINI is now put on by the WRG FarmerCity leases the track to them.. They wanted a LOLM race and were told No by WRG thats the Fact call Lance he will tell you...ptown just a child with no home... The May 11/12 race was set up to replace the race that they want from LOLM...Thats a Fact...If you call some tracks and ask them why they don't have a LOLM race they will tell you they cant cause they run UMP....
                            Last edited by Cardirt0; 04-29-2017, 09:21 PM.

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                            • Highside Hustler25
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 12950

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Bubstr View Post
                              Are you saying that this hasn't happened at Farmer City before and that you was privy to all conversations between Farmer city an WRG? You should know what your talking about, before trying to belittle someone that does know. They lost their sanctioning once because of a LOLM race. Now would be a good time to apologize for being rude crude and socially unacceptable.
                              Are you sure? Not doubting your word but I thought that deal was over lack of payment to WoO by one said past promoter. Yes/No
                              8/13/16

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                              • Bubstr
                                Senior Member
                                • Feb 2008
                                • 3734

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Highside Hustler25 View Post
                                Are you sure? Not doubting your word but I thought that deal was over lack of payment to WoO by one said past promoter. Yes/No
                                Do I have proof? No, but I got the story from two different people. Not being up to date with fees had been going on for quite a while. They wanted a Lucas race like Macon and Tri City to make some money, is why they lost their sanction, because a Lucas race is mot against the rules, just comes with penalties. I think Tony Izzo is finding this out also. What do you think HH? Why do you suppose 34 raceway lost their SN date? Yes, they weren't grandfathered in and had a Lucas race. Getting the pattern here?
                                Last edited by Bubstr; 04-30-2017, 12:45 AM.

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