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  • cjp0354
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2010
    • 377

    #1

    "Cherry pickers"

    I was reading another post and got to thinking...... When the word "cherry picker" is thrown out, Billy Moyers name is almost always thrown in. How can a man that almost unanimously is considered the top 2 best late model drivers ever, be a Cherry Picker? When people say he's the best, no one points out his 80+ Summer Nationals wins or his countless $10,000 to win shows. The only stat that's needed to put him at number 1 or 2 is the 6 Globes he's won. When deciding if he or Bloomquist is the better driver, No one says it has to be Moyer because he's won more races. No one really pays attention to race wins. They only care about Crown Jewel wins and major sanctioning body championships.


    My point is, so what if Moyer wants to run for the almost certain $5k show instead of traveling 2 hours further down the road to race with stiffer competition... it's not like that $5k Win will matter in your eye anyway.

    P.s. I have to been guilty of thinking he was cherry picking when he rolled into a track near me. But as I get older I realize, a person's career is not defined by the 100's of small races they won but the few big races they won.

    Repetitive enough for ya?
  • fryefan
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 3547

    #2
    Those posts come from people who are jealous of the drivers success.

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    • zyoung25
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2007
      • 8943

      #3
      It seems if you've been at the top of the sport at some point or another, and decide to fall back to a regional schedule and win, you're considered a cherry picker. Once they're done with the national scene, just hang it up fellas, unless you want to be looked at as a cherry picker.

      I'm really hoping everyone can sense the sarcasm in that.
      Last edited by zyoung25; 05-03-2017, 05:45 AM.

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      • WisWildManFan
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2013
        • 3216

        #4
        All I know is no one calls bloomquist a cherry picker.
        Always carrying my 2 Crown Jewels

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        • golddirt
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 3772

          #5
          No they call him much worse

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          • Highside Hustler25
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2009
            • 12912

            #6
            In my opinion, anyone who calls a Super Late Racer a cherry picker is not much of a fan.
            8/13/16

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            • Barbecueboy
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2013
              • 18116

              #7
              Originally posted by WisWildManFan View Post
              All I know is no one calls bloomquist a cherry picker.
              He is more like George Washington.......he just goes in and crotch chops the dam tree down to the ground.

              Ftw
              Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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              • matdaddy
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 338

                #8
                in order to be the best you have to beat the best,so if Moyer shows up at a 5K show and runs 8th against a bunch of local drivers, 7 drivers can say they out ran one of the best

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                • zach51
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 1362

                  #9
                  My original point on the other thread before we got sideways (and it also ties into what GRT said later on), even these lower paying regional races aren't just gravy any more. The races people claim that the Moyers "cherry pick", they are losing 8 out of 10 of those. Everybody has great equipment and when you roll into some of these tracks that a local guy with great stuff runs at weekly, they are hard to beat. They might can pick a cherry ever now and then but they are going to have to duke it out with some other guys standing around the tree first.

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                  • bullring
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 947

                    #10
                    My definition of a cherry picker is a guy who drives several hours past a higher paying race to go find weaker competition. If a guy has a decent paying race right in his own area that he chooses to run rather than travel all over hell that's just smart business.

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                    • jog49
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2007
                      • 2551

                      #11
                      "Cherry picking" is a term used by dingbats to indicate a driver/race team that chooses a venue where the odds of winning are higher; usually because of so-called "weaker" competition. If that driver/race term's sole purpose in racing is monetary in nature, then it would be foolish not to go where the odds of winning are higher. Traveling involves expenses and expenses have to be addressed before there is a bottom line. The closer to home one can stay, the less money is dedicated to paying for the travel.
                      Anyone with any racing knowledge whatsoever knows that on any given night, Billy Moyer can and has beaten the best in the business so calling him a cherry picker makes the caller look like an idiot. Calling Moyer a shrewd businessman and you might gain some respect.

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                      • zach51
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 1362

                        #12
                        Originally posted by bullring View Post
                        My definition of a cherry picker is a guy who drives several hours past a higher paying race to go find weaker competition. If a guy has a decent paying race right in his own area that he chooses to run rather than travel all over hell that's just smart business.
                        Yep, and that's one of the reasons Moyer said he was never too keen on committing to a tour because he'd have to drive past better paying races to go run for series points. Also traveling to BFE with 90% chance a rain in the forecast because you couldn't afford to lose points by risking not going, and then it rains and you turn around and go back home with empty pockets and lots of burnt diesel.

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                        • MasterSbilt_Racer
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2007
                          • 14303

                          #13
                          Originally posted by cjp0354 View Post
                          I was reading another post and got to thinking...... When the word "cherry picker" is thrown out, Billy Moyers name is almost always thrown in. How can a man that almost unanimously is considered the top 2 best late model drivers ever, be a Cherry Picker? When people say he's the best, no one points out his 80+ Summer Nationals wins or his countless $10,000 to win shows. The only stat that's needed to put him at number 1 or 2 is the 6 Globes he's won. When deciding if he or Bloomquist is the better driver, No one says it has to be Moyer because he's won more races. No one really pays attention to race wins. They only care about Crown Jewel wins and major sanctioning body championships.


                          My point is, so what if Moyer wants to run for the almost certain $5k show instead of traveling 2 hours further down the road to race with stiffer competition... it's not like that $5k Win will matter in your eye anyway.

                          P.s. I have to been guilty of thinking he was cherry picking when he rolled into a track near me. But as I get older I realize, a person's career is not defined by the 100's of small races they won but the few big races they won.

                          Repetitive enough for ya?
                          The more accomplished you are, the more likely you are a cherry picker. That's how it works. If you haven't done anything, how can you be a no brainer winner against a given field?
                          Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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                          • rickybrown1952
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2014
                            • 1448

                            #14
                            OK listen up ya'll BMJ is not a cherry picker as ya'll call it he's a guy that Loves to go racing period and as far as his dad Billy moyer he has absolutely nothing to prove to anyone Jr has actually gotten pretty good the last couple yrs and has a pretty good chance of winning the snats this year
                            I am what I am

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                            • waaac77
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2015
                              • 629

                              #15
                              Who cares? You posters on here have been talking about cherry pickers for the past 10 years that I've been checking this board and the posts have never changed. Same BS. It's been years and years of complaining and saying the exact same things everyone has already said before. If you're still ripping Moyer for "cherry picking" then you just enjoy complaining. Let it go

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