Feger vs UMP vs WOO vs Driggers vs Promoters

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  • ptown
    Banned
    • Jan 2011
    • 1906

    #1

    Feger vs UMP vs WOO vs Driggers vs Promoters

    I agree with everything Jason said, WOO/UMP is putting a major screw job on the guys that support and follow the Summernationals. Anther question, why would a promoter schedule a combined event when he could do two separately and double his profits.
  • JabberJaws83
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2008
    • 848

    #2
    Maybe Feger should concentrate more on his racing program than saving the sport.

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    • jr29
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 829

      #3
      There is some merit to his arguement. However, co-sanctioned races and show up money have been around racing forever.
      And he complained about WOO teams having bigger budgets.... when he runs weekly shows at Farmer City is that not the same thing ?

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      • JabberJaws83
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2008
        • 848

        #4
        110+ cars in 3 classes. I didn't miss Jason running as a back marker at all

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        • jr29
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 829

          #5
          Originally posted by JabberJaws83 View Post
          110+ cars in 3 classes. I didn't miss Jason running as a back marker at all
          Judging by the car count and the grandstands I don't think the promoters were heartbroken either.

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          • HoosierDirtFan
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2012
            • 22186

            #6
            Originally posted by JabberJaws83 View Post
            110+ cars in 3 classes. I didn't miss Jason running as a back marker at all
            [B]It's obvious you don't understand Jason's point or statement. The only reason I-55 had cars is because of the payout. The rules and no tech at a lot of tracks have hurt the sport more then you might think. No teams go out and spend money they didn't have to spend because they either can't driver or they can't figure out how to set up the car; so they figure if I out spend the next guy I can buy speed. Well it don't work that way. The stupid rules and the b.s. with Sam and his cronies in Charlotte A.K.A. WRG have messed up this sport. Most are probably only there for the money. I think most racers and teams understand what Jason's said and I know a lot of folks that agree with what he said. Most of the b.s. hurts the little teams. Why go to a track to race with a series if there going to cater to a certain group of teams. I'd personally like to hear more of What Jason would like to say but maybe has kept his mouth shut on some of it. Granite he has side what's on his mind; but I think he would probably say more if he didn't think it might hurt him or the local guys who support their tracks. Yes he will likely be at F.A.L.S. for the PDC but the would be supporting his home track. Like a lot of us I think he just doesn't agree with where the sport is possibly headed if Promoters, Teams, and Sanctions don't get their heads out of their heads out of their @$$es.
            Last edited by HoosierDirtFan; 07-04-2017, 12:07 PM.
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            • cgrace
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2013
              • 903

              #7
              so instead of TWO NIGHTS of racing for $10k. They only have ONE night. It's a win for promoters. Regardless of purse being raised. as a fan id rather have two nights of racing. they asked ump drivers last year who followed tour. ALL said NO co-sanction. plus i think the summernationals guys got points as a regular night., but woo got show up points. not 100% sure. while we are at it. Quincy looked much rougher than boswell so again UMP has no consistency. theres so much going on one of the drivers could start a did ya know facebook page under a diff name and fans wouldn't be happy with WOO or UMP. most of the drivers have dedicated their lives to racing and have spoken to UMP over years. but feger, griffaw (posted tire photo from other night) and others are the only ones that are willing to say it out loud. heck ump doesn't ever check mod tires ch3ck out posts from brooksie

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              • cgrace
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2013
                • 903

                #8
                the summernational drivers werent' happy they jsut don't say it so you hear it. most the local guys would rather have two shows as well that way they get the same purse for start as they usually do for goodfinish on local night.

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                • JabberJaws83
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 848

                  #9
                  So say a track offered Jason show up money to come run a regular show. Do you think he would turn it down?

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                  • huskerdirt
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2011
                    • 5620

                    #10
                    I understand Jason's point to a degree, but he needs to know where he's at on the food chain. If he wants to be treated like a national tour regular. Then go run a national tour. It really isn't that hard of a concept. When he won that Lucas race at Webster City a few years ago. Nobody sitting around me knew who he was, but they knew who finished 2nd that night. In general fans aren't paying 30 bucks to see Feger race at these national shows. Outside of Illinois, Feger isn't close to the draw that Bloomer or Moyer are.

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                    • Josh Bayko
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2007
                      • 8736

                      #11
                      He spends more time b*tching than he does working to make his cars better. It's getting old.
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                      • golddirt
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2007
                        • 3772

                        #12
                        Well said Hoosier. Some people just can't get it. He is sticking up for the little
                        guy and that was why Ump was started, level playing field
                        at all tracks. Why does someone always have to make it personal look around where are all
                        of the cars? No one builds cars anymore they attach parts I has lost its
                        Roots and that goes to people wanting to make a living racing dirt

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                        • jr29
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2007
                          • 829

                          #13
                          Originally posted by racer x16
                          it paid either 700 or 800 to start most of the summer national guys were there how you think they got 41 cars with only 4 local showing up

                          There were at least ten locals.

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                          • blncfn57
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2007
                            • 2013

                            #14
                            a co-sanction should never happen unless it's the 2 national touring series IMO or 2 series on the same level at least. If your series can't support itself, time to change something or dissolve it.
                            Last edited by blncfn57; 07-06-2017, 08:19 AM.

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                            • racer x16
                              Banned
                              • Jul 2017
                              • 49

                              #15
                              co-sanctions are the norm now but how about everybody on the same page for rules no exceptions

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