Farmer City SN

[SHOESTRING TRVLR]

Hey cardirt0, since your health does not allow you to go, why don't you help the tracks out by sending them a weekly admission fee to do your part to keep them open.

[Bubstr]

These tracks are only as good as their last race. With the failing of tracks around the country, one bad race is the start of the end. You can say support these tracks, but no one likes to go watch stinkers and they don't. It ma be hard to grasp, but a premo track can turn into a stinker in just a couple races. Times are hard, do you think going to a stinker and wearing a smile is going to fix things? It will just drive more people away from races, good or bad. When a new fan goes to a stinker, they figure all races are like that. End of new fan. Your next race is the most important race. You will be a Hero or Zero. If telling the track this is bad for the sport, think what not saying anything does for it.

[Shiny Side Up 18]

These tracks are only as good as their last race. With the failing of tracks around the country, one bad race is the start of the end. You can say support these tracks, but no one likes to go watch stinkers and they don't. It ma be hard to grasp, but a premo track can turn into a stinker in just a couple races. Times are hard, do you think going to a stinker and wearing a smile is going to fix things? It will just drive more people away from races, good or bad. When a new fan goes to a stinker, they figure all races are like that. End of new fan. Your next race is the most important race. You will be a Hero or Zero. If telling the track this is bad for the sport, think what not saying anything does for it.

Nailed it. A lot of people confuse constructive criticism with bashing.

[dirtrackfan4]

I have read every single one of your posts on this thread...now it is my turn to chime in to each one of you!! Ptown - please tell me why FC should be ashamed of themselves? If only you knew what they are trying to do and dig themselves out of a hole the former promotor put them into. GEAR-HEAD = What stupid decision did FC make? Please tell me oh wise one! You all do realize that when UMP or WOO come in, the race track staff and promotor lose pretty much all say in the racing program, right? If you have never worked or volunteered for a track, you probably have not taken the time to learn this information. They were not holding you hostage...that line up was set forth by UMP. I was down at the UMP trailer when it was decided what class to run and when. thexfactor0210 = FC actually does care about their fans. I have talked with many who work and volunteer for the track on a weekly basis. There have been a few nights they have ran later than normal. However...most nights so far this year, the races are over by 10-10:30. Races take time...whether it be for track work, cautions, etc. SHOESTRING TRVLR = You talk about the FC staff having bad attitudes? Please tell me who they are or what they look like. And who is the old lady? Cause at the pit shack, she is in her early 40s, and the 2 ladies at the front gate are in their 40s as well, so not sure who the old lady is. Just for the record, I'm not from FC. My home track is FALS, but I go to FC every Friday and support them week in and week out. A week ago, they had a finish for the books between Feger and Unizicker. The new tire rules do not help with the tracks right now as it tends to help with rubbering them up. I know personally the 2 guys who are in charge of the track prep at both FALS and FC and the amount of time, hours, and manpower it takes and they are not paid for it. They do a hell of a job!!! At both tracks, they sometimes go out and work on the track AFTER the races are over even. If you think you can do better and know what can be done, contact them! I'm sure they would be more than happy to let you come show them. However, if you are just going to sit here, complain, and not offer any help besides bashing (and yes...most of these posts ARE in fact bashing), then you are not helping the problem at these tracks...you are just making it worse!!!

[Bubstr]

Sure there are people here that like to rain on someone's parade, but anyone that went to these races or even looked at the high lights could tell something was wrong. Are the track people smarter than this board? Maybe but if they where, they would have it fixed. Recognizing a problem is the first step to fixing it.

I see Fairury has a plan to fix it's problem. They are changing the tire rules. This is a logical fix. If the right front and left rear tire was getting too hot, it deters some from racing on the cushion. This was the line missing from their usual 4 lane race track. The cushion line needs company to keep the loose stuff off. I'd say good call as of now. It may come with other problems, but at least we know that one of the premiere tracks is working on it. I would expect nothing less from one of my favorite tracks. With out the bashing, the other tracks that lack the work ethic that FALLs has, will not be a good representative for Our sport. So yes and no, to bashing, but this is Truth, Lies, Rumors and all points in between!.

[SHOESTRING TRVLR]

Use to be a older lady that worked the front gate that acted like she trusted no one. Last time I was there I did not appreciate having the lady lean threw the drivers window to put a arm band on my partners wrist. Either let use put it on , or have the courtesy to walk around to passenger side and put it on. Next time I will ask for names for you. Was there Labor Day weekend a couple years ago and race got rained out by a unexpected storm after very little racing. I understand the no refund policy, but come on we didn't set to see squat. More bad attitude about a refund. Then to reschedule the race during the week when people who traveled couldn't make it back doesn't help. When the last time any updates was done at this place? Hell they can't even bring porta pots infor a special.Hopefully they finally put some money back in the place. Here a tip, your not fals, quit trying to leech off their success. This place use to be great and still can be. But look in the mirror and quit blaming previous promotors. Make it farmer city raceway. Not fals south.

[Illtsate32]

Im not a track prep expert but sometimes to me it seems when they prep before the main its good for ten or twenty laps then locks down. When as before it was prepped it was slick but still was not locking down..but making the distinction when and when not to prep would be the problem..

[Clayton_Wetter]

Nailed it. A lot of people confuse constructive criticism with bashing.

Nothing wrong at all with constructive criticism. The ones on here that cry bash all the time are only making it worse on tracks and promoters by trying to ignore issues that will make fans quit coming to the tracks if they are not addressed.

Poor track prep for instance will cost you fans in the seats, not people just pointing it out. Ignoring problems only leads to more problems.

Now lets get at more "CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM"!!!

[ptown]

Sorry but the race still was horrible. I'll save my money next year, no Illini, I74 or Summernationals for me.

[GEAR_HEAD]

I have read every single one of your posts on this thread...now it is my turn to chime in to each one of you!! Ptown - please tell me why FC should be ashamed of themselves? If only you knew what they are trying to do and dig themselves out of a hole the former promotor put them into. GEAR-HEAD = What stupid decision did FC make? Please tell me oh wise one! You all do realize that when UMP or WOO come in, the race track staff and promotor lose pretty much all say in the racing program, right? If you have never worked or volunteered for a track, you probably have not taken the time to learn this information. They were not holding you hostage...that line up was set forth by UMP. I was down at the UMP trailer when it was decided what class to run and when. thexfactor0210 = FC actually does care about their fans. I have talked with many who work and volunteer for the track on a weekly basis. There have been a few nights they have ran later than normal. However...most nights so far this year, the races are over by 10-10:30. Races take time...whether it be for track work, cautions, etc. SHOESTRING TRVLR = You talk about the FC staff having bad attitudes? Please tell me who they are or what they look like. And who is the old lady? Cause at the pit shack, she is in her early 40s, and the 2 ladies at the front gate are in their 40s as well, so not sure who the old lady is. Just for the record, I'm not from FC. My home track is FALS, but I go to FC every Friday and support them week in and week out. A week ago, they had a finish for the books between Feger and Unizicker. The new tire rules do not help with the tracks right now as it tends to help with rubbering them up. I know personally the 2 guys who are in charge of the track prep at both FALS and FC and the amount of time, hours, and manpower it takes and they are not paid for it. They do a hell of a job!!! At both tracks, they sometimes go out and work on the track AFTER the races are over even. If you think you can do better and know what can be done, contact them! I'm sure they would be more than happy to let you come show them. However, if you are just going to sit here, complain, and not offer any help besides bashing (and yes...most of these posts ARE in fact bashing), then you are not helping the problem at these tracks...you are just making it worse!!!

I don't care who made the decision to run the supers 3rd, it was stupid regardless. There were too many support divisions, that was the track's fault. Supers and mods are they needed.

[ptown]

That track hasn't been the same since the fair board kicked out Bob Sargent.

[Cardirt0]

Hey cardirt0, since your health does not allow you to go, why don't you help the tracks out by sending them a weekly admission fee to do your part to keep them open.

And were i am i to get that money from .. I cant go to track.. O and i cant work ether so and SS is not a lot of money...O yea i just give up Food...

[Cardirt0]

That track hasn't been the same since the fair board kicked out Bob Sargent.

Tell us just what happened if you know so much... Come on you run your mouth tell us...

[golddirt]

A pair of hammers!!

[SHOESTRING TRVLR]

sell your computer