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Clayton Wetter
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Check out the measurement of the inside wall of both, that way we can average what it is in the middle of each track. Can not be considered a true half mile if the cars can travel a shorter distance. Everytime I see time trials at Eldora the cars are in the middle of the track in the turns...
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I don't know where the cars run at Toledo but at Eldora they are usually real close to the outside wall and also they don't run near the inside of the track.Originally posted by NY DIRT View PostCheck out the measurement of the inside wall of both, that way we can average what it is in the middle of each track. Can not be considered a true half mile if the cars can travel a shorter distance. Everytime I see time trials at Eldora the cars are in the middle of the track in the turns...
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This is a good discussion we are having here and I have to agree with you about the cars running at the top of the speedway at Eldora. However they are doing this when the track is slower and the top of the track is the quickest way to go then.Originally posted by Clayton_Wetter View PostI don't know where the cars run at Toledo but at Eldora they are usually real close to the outside wall and also they don't run near the inside of the track.
So what I did was go to you tube and type in the track record for late models at Eldora and BINGO there it was. It was set on Sept. 12th 2015 and it showed the two qualifying laps by Chris fergesen (excuse the spelling) You can clearly see that he was in the middle of the turns not the top so he did not cover a full half mile in distance. So there you have it. Video is clear proof of where the quickest speed is at Eldora...
Right or wrong, You still Da Man and if you should run for president of the 4M forum, You got my vote...
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Even when measured on the extreme high side of the track right next to the outside wall Eldora isn't a legitimate 1/2 mile. It lacks at least a couple of hundred feet of being a true 1/2 mile. And when measured in the middle of the track where you say the late model track record was set it's even substantially shorter.Originally posted by NY DIRT View PostSo what I did was go to you tube and type in the track record for late models at Eldora and BINGO there it was. It was set on Sept. 12th 2015 and it showed the two qualifying laps by Chris fergesen (excuse the spelling) You can clearly see that he was in the middle of the turns not the top so he did not cover a full half mile in distance. So there you have it. Video is clear proof of where the quickest speed is at Eldora....
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Do they run high at Toledo? I have never been there.Originally posted by NY DIRT View PostThis is a good discussion we are having here and I have to agree with you about the cars running at the top of the speedway at Eldora. However they are doing this when the track is slower and the top of the track is the quickest way to go then.
So what I did was go to you tube and type in the track record for late models at Eldora and BINGO there it was. It was set on Sept. 12th 2015 and it showed the two qualifying laps by Chris fergesen (excuse the spelling) You can clearly see that he was in the middle of the turns not the top so he did not cover a full half mile in distance. So there you have it. Video is clear proof of where the quickest speed is at Eldora...
Right or wrong, You still Da Man and if you should run for president of the 4M forum, You got my vote...
You are right about Fergusen's lap. Usually they run higher as the cushion moves up sooner than when Fergusen did his lap. Best I remember the track was wetter than usual from a rain.
Looks like the track is about ten feet wider at Eldora than Toledo on average.
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The wetter the faster, you know thatOriginally posted by Clayton_Wetter View PostDo they run high at Toledo? I have never been there.
You are right about Fergusen's lap. Usually they run higher as the cushion moves up sooner than when Fergusen did his lap. Best I remember the track was wetter than usual from a rain.
Looks like the track is about ten feet wider at Eldora than Toledo on average.
As far as Toledo, they run on the bottom in the turns and middle to top on the straghts
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bt, Florence measures out at right about 2050' right up against the outside wall. That would figure out to .388 of a mile. Just a bit over 3/8's of a mile. But, as I said, that is measured right up by the wall. Obviously it's going to measure considerably shorter down low on the bottom.Originally posted by birky time View Posthow about Florence ky track what size is it?
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I measured Florence at real close to a 4/10 of a mile outside wall. Im';m going to recheck it for the total feet OD.Originally posted by birky time View Posthow about Florence ky track what size is it?
2115 FEET OD equals;
2115 Feet is equal to
= 0.400568181818 MilesLast edited by Clayton_Wetter; 07-27-2017, 06:27 PM.
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No problem, Blackie. The big track at Sycamore measures approximately 1590' way out by the wall. That figures out to .30 of a mile, or just shy of 1/3rd. The small track measures 1050' on the outside which figures out to .19 of a mile or basically 1/5 mile. However, I'm not sure if I'm measuring it correctly. It could be longer or it could be shorter depending on what line they use to race on.Originally posted by Black I View PostCan ya do Sycamore CW, Cirf? Thanks
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For measurements, I know NASCAR measures the distance 15' from the outside wall.
As far as calling a track a half mile, really, anything over 4.5/10 could be technically listed as half mile.
Since they don't use km or feet, or any other more precise measurement.
It seems that Bull's Gap always listed itself as a 4/10 mile.
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