Steve Francis...Serious ?, not bashing the man

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  • Zonks32x
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2013
    • 966

    #1

    Steve Francis...Serious ?, not bashing the man

    If Bloomer or Richards, Pierce, etc. don't win a race for a couple weeks, they're "struggling."

    In all seriousness, I'd like to dig into the drivers who have legitimately struggled, and get your opinions as to why?

    Steve Francis is a veteran driver, a national touring champion, and has enjoyed a DLM career few can rival.

    Is it equipment? Funding? Age? Driving Style? Wear and tear of years on the road?

    I know winning a race on either national tour is NOT easy, but he's done it more than the average bear in the past.

    Again, I'm not looking to bash the man, or Chub, or EPJ or any other touring drivers who haven't been to victory lane for awhile. Just looking for opinions as to why.
  • zyoung25
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2007
    • 8945

    #2
    Epj has won a few races this year, a couple Lucas races at that.

    Steve hasn't been he same since Chris passed away. He ran good in the bwrc house car, before the Bowyer money got involved. I don't think he's washed up though. This day and age, once you get behind, it's almost impossible to get back to the top again. That's just a testament to how good Bloomquist is. He may have a off year, but he's never had, what I would call back to back to bad years.

    I don't know if Steve will ever get back to what he was or not, but we don't need him to leave, that's for sure.

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    • hucktyson
      Banned
      • May 2007
      • 1903

      #3
      Having only won a couple lucas shows this year epj should probably hang it up lol. Do clowns not realize at a lucas show your racing the Lucas guys plus all of the super fast reigional guys that night ? If your a few tenths off your stuck in the back unless your a world class talent and your stuff is dialed in

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      • King1
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2012
        • 354

        #4
        Steve is well capable. Notice how he wins heats and qualifies up front but cant get it done in the race. I know why hes not running good but its money keeping him from getting there and i dont mean mean spent either.

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        • chupp n bloomer fan
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 11526

          #5
          Originally posted by zyoung25 View Post
          Epj has won a few races this year, a couple Lucas races at that.

          Steve hasn't been he same since Chris passed away. He ran good in the bwrc house car, before the Bowyer money got involved. I don't think he's washed up though. This day and age, once you get behind, it's almost impossible to get back to the top again. That's just a testament to how good Bloomquist is. He may have a off year, but he's never had, what I would call back to back to bad years.

          I don't know if Steve will ever get back to what he was or not, but we don't need him to leave, that's for sure.
          Yeah. When it was just Barry, Lance, and Steve, they were sporty. Shame, he really can't put it together right now. But hopefully he just sticks with a brand and gets it to his liking.

          Earl has been pretty good and consistent this year, as you and others have said, with some Lucas wins.

          Chub, the Lester money, and that fire I think is what has done him in. He doesn't even win when he goes back local.
          Up in the air who my next “favorite” driver is. Really losing hope on Bloomer getting anywhere back to “normal”.

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          • MI Dirt Fan
            Banned
            • May 2007
            • 8806

            #6
            Asked a similar question awhile back. Maybe he needs a Chassis change?
            Last edited by MI Dirt Fan; 07-31-2017, 08:11 AM.

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            • Josh Bayko
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 8737

              #7
              I think bring out on an island with the Capital stuff hinders him some. I feel that his results would be a little better if he was on the WoO with Shane Clinton night in and night out. On a tour, it really helps to have another driver to bounce ideas off of and share information with.
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              • Zonks32x
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2013
                • 966

                #8
                Gentlemen,
                Appreciate the responses. Please keep 'em coming. Huck, knew I could count on you for an insult. What the hell, did you read my username as Gray or something?

                I know d@mn well EPJ has won a couple races this year, and what it takes against the best. But...winning 2 races over 5 months and not in the title chase is a long way from where that team had been, when they won multiple championships. We know funding isn't the issue with that team. Is it qualifying? Set-up? Bloomer?? Or??

                Good luck with the rest of your race season in PA. How's the Pierce car been treating you?

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                • JabberJaws83
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 848

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Josh Bayko View Post
                  I think bring out on an island with the Capital stuff hinders him some. I feel that his results would be a little better if he was on the WoO with Shane Clinton night in and night out. On a tour, it really helps to have another driver to bounce ideas off of and share information with.
                  I was surprised when he decided to run Lucas and not WoO.

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                  • Highwayman
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2017
                    • 423

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Zonks32x View Post
                    If Bloomer or Richards, Pierce, etc. don't win a race for a couple weeks, they're "struggling."

                    In all seriousness, I'd like to dig into the drivers who have legitimately struggled, and get your opinions as to why?

                    Steve Francis is a veteran driver, a national touring champion, and has enjoyed a DLM career few can rival.

                    Is it equipment? Funding? Age? Driving Style? Wear and tear of years on the road?

                    I know winning a race on either national tour is NOT easy, but he's done it more than the average bear in the past.

                    Again, I'm not looking to bash the man, or Chub, or EPJ or any other touring drivers who haven't been to victory lane for awhile. Just looking for opinions as to why.
                    Could be that smack to the head he got did more damage than is realized, not to mention the spinal injury he got a few seasons back. Concussions are no joke and the chief reason I advocate against FC seats being mandatory, although that had nothing to do with Steve's injury.
                    Last edited by Highwayman; 08-01-2017, 10:30 AM.
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                    • manwplan
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 351

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Highwayman View Post
                      Could be that smack to the head he got a couple of seasons back did more damage than is realized. Concussions are no joke and the chief reason I advocate against FC seats being mandatory.
                      1. Francis got smacked in the head last year at Tri City. His struggles pre date that.

                      2. We can debate FC seats, and there is some validity to the concussion argument however he was going to get a concussion regardless of what seat he had in because he got hit in the head!

                      I know this is 4m and facts are usually ignored.

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                      • Bubstr
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 3734

                        #12
                        Can't really pick on Francis. New team and car the first of the year. I have seen crews not be on the same page for years and not know why they aren't running good. Don't for one moment think Steve forgot how to drive. One guy could change that team night to day. A leadership guy. If he says the chicken cab pull the train, the rest hitch that chicken up. You have to believe, then it's easy to make it happen. I still see moments of Francis talent. corner speed and hustling exit speed. It just doesn't happen all the time.

                        One other thing about dry spells, Even the winning est drivers will loose way more races than they win.

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                        • chupp n bloomer fan
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2007
                          • 11526

                          #13
                          Originally posted by manwplan View Post
                          1. Francis got smacked in the head last year at Tri City. His struggles pre date that.

                          2. We can debate FC seats, and there is some validity to the concussion argument however he was going to get a concussion regardless of what seat he had in because he got hit in the head!

                          I know this is 4m and facts are usually ignored.
                          Precisely. He was hit in the helmet/face with a weight from another car. Zero to do with the seats that have saved a lot more people than they've hurt. Just like seat belts.
                          Up in the air who my next “favorite” driver is. Really losing hope on Bloomer getting anywhere back to “normal”.

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                          • Josh Bayko
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2007
                            • 8737

                            #14
                            Originally posted by JabberJaws83 View Post
                            I was surprised when he decided to run Lucas and not WoO.
                            I think he was planning on going back to the WoO, then Lucas hooked him up with the Rhino AG sponsorship deal and that changed.
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                            • Krooser
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2012
                              • 3117

                              #15
                              Didn't Chub win one in ND a few weeks ago?
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