CLake...A Farmed Track is a better track?

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  • MUD MAESTRO
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 5231

    #1

    CLake...A Farmed Track is a better track?

    Cedar Lake, Has the reputation to provide the best racing surface possible. They do that by farming the track several times during USA Nationals. But when is track prep to much? Listening to a few drivers ( Madden, Bloomquist, Simpson)....they believed reworking the surface prior to the main event hindered the set up on their cars and reduced chances of a good run.....Are the drivers right or do the fans want the fast and furious pace of the first 50 laps of the USA nationals.
  • ptown
    Banned
    • Jan 2011
    • 1906

    #2
    I thought the racing was great, cars running all over the track and lots of passing, much better than the PDC at Fairbury.

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    • kazual
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2014
      • 1168

      #3
      Upper tier late model teams and fans often disagree on what makes for a good race. Drivers want slicked off and more of a tip toe driving style, it's easier on the driver and their much too fragile suspension parts and high dollar engines. Fans, not all of them, like a surface with some character that provides more intrigue and some unknown.
      I hate time trials.

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      • JabberJaws83
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2008
        • 848

        #4
        As long as it's not a rubbered up piece of crap, I can be a fan of both.

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        • SHOESTRING TRVLR
          Member
          • May 2007
          • 96

          #5
          Isn't that part of racing, keeping the drivers guessing at the set up. Can't have the same track conditions at every race.

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          • dirt crow
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2008
            • 3596

            #6
            It absolutely pains me to agree with that hippie s o b bloomer but I do agree with him and the others. No sense in it. I was there last year and thought the track was in great shape after the nascar lates. Mars put on a show in that event. Very racey. Then they farmed it up and watered the sh!t out of it. An hour and a half delay. I thought it was ridiculous. Plus I knew I had a he|l of a drive home the next day. ...Wide open hot laps for a third of the race, not a fan. JMO
            2023 Races - WoO at TST

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            • shaggy20
              Member
              • May 2007
              • 33

              #7
              Dig it up arse hole deep water the piss out it let them run wide open rough cushions pounding is what fans wanna see piss on what the drivers want

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              • MasterSbilt_Racer
                Senior Member
                • May 2007
                • 14310

                #8
                Originally posted by SHOESTRING TRVLR View Post
                Isn't that part of racing, keeping the drivers guessing at the set up. Can't have the same track conditions at every race.
                You won't have the same conditions at every race. Adjusting the car according to what happens out on the track is part of it. It kinda feels like the rules of the game are changed when the promoter tears up the track and you don't know it is coming.
                Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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                • SHOESTRING TRVLR
                  Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 96

                  #9
                  They knew it was coming. They stood there and watched. Had plenty of time to make adjustments. Late model drivers are becoming to whiny. What happen to the days of just wanting to race.

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                  • Zonks32x
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2013
                    • 966

                    #10
                    Agree w/shoestring. The drivers saw what was going on for nearly an hour, plus they had a 25 minute fireworks show and the intro time to make any final changes.

                    Track was fast, the racing was good, and the fans in the filled stands enjoyed it.

                    Yup, CL should really re-think how they do things.

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                    • huskerdirt
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 5620

                      #11
                      If your track prep is that inadequate that you have to completely tear it up on Saturday night just to make the feature good. Then maybe you should really re think things. If you are doing it to sell hotdogs and beers. Then you REALLY need to re think things. Either way, it's unacceptable.

                      Maybe that's why only 42 cars showed up. I don't even bother with the ppv because I'm not paying money to watch tractors and water trucks circle the track for an hour plus. On top of firework display.... yes we must do that to waste more time.
                      Last edited by huskerdirt; 08-07-2017, 05:38 PM.

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                      • Bubstr
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 3734

                        #12
                        From the few times I've been to Cedar Lake, I can see why they may farm the track. It has a tendency to develop holes in the corners. The crews do need to be informed a head of time though. They can adjust to it then. It's not as bad as moving Ute tires in or out or blading the burm, in the middle of the A Main.

                        Either way, you know it happens and everyone runs the same track. Be prepared next time. This isn't a first time.

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                        • SHOESTRING TRVLR
                          Member
                          • May 2007
                          • 96

                          #13
                          Sadly husker darn near every track does it now except for I 80. The kosiskis do it right. Even with 100* temps they have their track prep down pat. The art of track prep and letting the cars push the cushion up as the night goes on is extinct at the majority of tracks.

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                          • huskerdirt
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2011
                            • 5620

                            #14
                            Originally posted by SHOESTRING TRVLR View Post
                            Sadly husker darn near every track does it now except for I 80. The kosiskis do it right. Even with 100* temps they have their track prep down pat. The art of track prep and letting the cars push the cushion up as the night goes on is extinct at the majority of tracks.
                            Knoxville doesn't do it and Eldora is pretty minimal compared to what cedar lake does. They take to another level as far as "mid race track prep" goes. A couple of times when Cedar Lake has done it, I don't think it's made the feature any better.

                            Yes we have become a little spoiled out here with I-80. What you mentioned above was an after thought following the SDN.

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                            • SHOE32
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2007
                              • 389

                              #15
                              I was at cedar lake and after the rain Friday right before the racing began,all the drivers whined about how they should keep farming the track to help. So they did. Saturday the track was great but they touched it up before the feature. I don't know about anyone else but the crowd by me were elated by 4 cars battling side by side for the lead at times. And as far as drivers having time to set up the cars, I was also at I80 and was very impressed by kosiski's way of prepping track. But guess what,Bloomquist,who I am a big fan of, missed the setup on his car starting up front. So I don't wanna hear all this crap about track prep at those two awesome facilities. Pull to the starting line and may the best car win.

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