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  • HoosierDirtFan
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2012
    • 22186

    #1

    What's your take on this? Social Media bashing vs tracks taking responsibility

    What's your taking on this? Social Media bashing vs track promoters & Touring Series / sanctions taking responsibility for the lack of running a good track / series.
    Link to article
    http://www.tjslideways.com/2015/12/3...ing-endeavors/
    Nathan Stephens

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  • Clayton_Wetter
    Banned
    • May 2007
    • 16671

    #2
    Run a good track and program and you don't have to worry about the media. That promoter must have not.

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    • ptown
      Banned
      • Jan 2011
      • 1906

      #3
      They all want to blame their failures on social media.

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      • JinxNC
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2007
        • 659

        #4
        It's the way of the world present day. Plain and simple.
        #HornsUp

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        • 70satomic
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2013
          • 149

          #5
          Similarly situation happened at Smokey mountain speedway at the start of the season, the weather people had said all week long that it was going to snow on the race day but the track decided to go ahead with plans to race well guess what it snowed and people traveled long distances came to the track and got pissed when the race was calledBetter planning should have been used along with common sense

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          • Josh Bayko
            Senior Member
            • May 2007
            • 8734

            #6
            Well run tracks get little bashing on social media. Poorly run tracks get a ton.
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            • blncfn57
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 2013

              #7
              Originally posted by Josh Bayko View Post
              Well run tracks get little bashing on social media. Poorly run tracks get a ton.
              That depends. I know one track that you and others praise for their specials that was poorly ran during weekly races.

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              • Zonks32x
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2013
                • 966

                #8
                Poor reviews on social media isn't what's killing dirt tracks. Tracks that fail to provide an updated website, return phone calls or mantain any semblance of a social media presence at all is what's hurting them. People don't just magically show up. They have 100's of options competing for their entertainment dollar.

                What does it say about how a track maintains itself and operates its facilities in 2017 if they can't or won't do facebook or twitter when it's FREE.

                Seriously, how can a track owner/promoter beat a free way to communicate and positively promote their facility and events to the entire world, not just those that see a flyer at a gas station located near the track.

                The method has certainly changed over the last 20 years, but it's still called promoting.

                How many tracks use 4m to promote events??? and they've provided an entire section of the msg board for it, again for free.

                The increased cost to own/run a car plus a lack of new butts in the seats is what is hurting tracks. Two options, cut cost or attract new fans.

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                • klemmabyna
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 2055

                  #9
                  this is just me: i'm not likely to bash any track/promoter on social media. more likely to talk in person to someone from the track. I will go on social media to praise what I consider to be effort made in an attempt to put on a good show. doesn't always work, but if I see a track crew busting butt, i'm going to give credit.

                  the problem with social media is kind of like reading online reviews for other products. those who spout the most are usually those who are dissatisfied. people like to complain, but no one takes the effort to give praise.

                  take a trip through 4m. doesn't matter sanction/track/promoter/driver, etc... by the second page of posts it's a bitchfest.

                  JMO

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                  • Barbecueboy
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2013
                    • 18116

                    #10
                    Originally posted by blncfn57 View Post
                    That depends. I know one track that you and others praise for their specials that was poorly ran during weekly races.
                    Some tracks are just like that I think.......
                    Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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                    • Krooser
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2012
                      • 3117

                      #11
                      Sticking to social media and ignoring the traditional means to advertise means you are missing a large % of your potential audience. The majority of guys I know over 40 don't own a computer or do social media at all. The listen to the radio, watch tv and still read newspapers.

                      Four years ago I surveyed my track audience one night... 6 out of ten had a zero on line prescence...that's men and women.

                      I have had four teens living under my roof in the last three years...FB is obsolete to them...they Snapchat or simply text to stay in contact.
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                      • ptown
                        Banned
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 1906

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Krooser View Post
                        Sticking to social media and ignoring the traditional means to advertise means you are missing a large % of your potential audience. The majority of guys I know over 40 don't own a computer or do social media at all. The listen to the radio, watch tv and still read newspapers.

                        Four years ago I surveyed my track audience one night... 6 out of ten had a zero on line prescence...that's men and women.

                        I have had four teens living under my roof in the last three years...FB is obsolete to them...they Snapchat or simply text to stay in contact.
                        That's hard to believe except I do know teens don't do Facebook.

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                        • ptown
                          Banned
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 1906

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Black I
                          Because a teen don't want the family in on their business. If they block mom and dad then things get really hairy...
                          Brilliant deduction.

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                          • Zonks32x
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2013
                            • 966

                            #14
                            I'm not gonna get into a debate about what social media apps teens use or don't use, I'll simply say this. I have one in college, one in HS and I see 1400 teens every day in my job as a HS teacher, so I think I have a good handle on the subject.

                            My point was tracks need to find a way to get new fans in the stands.

                            Krooser...old balls that you surveyed at the track who doesn't own a computer is already in the stands. They already know the deal, time, place, cost, etc.

                            Teenagers...think really hard about how many teens you see in the stands at a racetrack. Very few if any, groups of teens. Maybe a couple boyfriends who dragged their girl along, the rest are with Dad or Grandpa. I see more teens in the pits racing, than in the stands watching...and that's ok.

                            It's the 22-39 age group. How do tracks reach them and attract them, their kids, and their $ to the track??

                            Team old guy is doing his part (thank you) but that's because an even older guy (Dads) took us to the racetrack and we did the same with our kids.

                            Dirt tracks need to find a way to connect with disgruntled nascar fan (there everywhere) and get them in the stands. All it takes is one night, and they'll be hooked. And if they like it, they'll tell their friends.

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                            • Duke100
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2016
                              • 138

                              #15
                              I would try giving out more free tickets, or deep discount coupons. This would only be good for the tracks that keep all of their concession money. Then keep them there with track prep! LOL

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