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  • Mike
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 1949

    #1

    Aero/downforce

    Wonder what took these guys so long to see this. Too bad they didn't have the foresight to see where the sport was headed years ago. It's almost like they had tunnel vision and couldn't see what was happening around them. SMH

    Mike
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  • TerryM
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2011
    • 3902

    #2
    I love your Sig. #WhoDey

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    • TerryM
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2011
      • 3902

      #3
      Good article.

      Air is for breathing, not for racing. It's going to be a sad day when Steve Francis retires.

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      • MI Dirt Fan
        Banned
        • May 2007
        • 8806

        #4
        Sounds like he's voicing his opinion out of frustration because he hasn't run all that well this year regardless of body panel measurements, aero and what not.

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        • Josh Bayko
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 8734

          #5
          Aero is a double edged sword. It is the cheapest speed in racing, however, it tends to lead to raised expenses in other areas of the car.
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          • Mike
            Senior Member
            • May 2007
            • 1949

            #6
            Originally posted by MI Dirt Fan View Post
            Sounds like he's voicing his opinion out of frustration because he hasn't run all that well this year regardless of body panel measurements, aero and what not.
            I thought with the talk of retirement if he didn't find a sponsor it was more of a money thing then anything. Over the last several years many have walked away do to cost, while people keep searching for answers how to reduce cost with the latest tire rule that will save racing! SMH
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            • Mike
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 1949

              #7
              Originally posted by Josh Bayko View Post
              Aero is a double edged sword. It is the cheapest speed in racing, however, it tends to lead to raised expenses in other areas of the car.
              Not to beat a dead horse but people should have listened years ago. It wasn't that hard to see the direction things were headed all you had to do was open your eyes and look around, but It was too easy for some to blame it all on the economy back then I guess.

              Let me guess.... you can't change aero now because it will obsolete parts people already have SMH
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              • dirtdobber45
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2015
                • 7226

                #8
                Id like to see em go back to the wedge car. I mean if their gonna run a 'throw back' race why not have em run a wedge car too?
                If I havent offended you please be patient Ill get to you as soon as I can...... and yes Im a Bloomquist fan...deal w it!!! WWG1WGA!!!

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                • Mike
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 1949

                  #9
                  Originally posted by dirtdobber45 View Post
                  Id like to see em go back to the wedge car. I mean if their gonna run a 'throw back' race why not have em run a wedge car too?
                  They are running the #ModernDayWedge going back to the old school wedge isn't going to solve anything.
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                  • fastford
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 4059

                    #10
                    good article , thanks for posting it mike, and he is right about the street stocks also , i know a lot of people only see the late models when they go , but if you think about it , or at least at our track, a lot of times these street stocks put on a better show....

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                    • a25rjr
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2016
                      • 3774

                      #11
                      Its called technology!

                      Now the racers know to get the front down and the rear up. No matter what rules are passed, they will figure a way to make it happen.

                      So in essence, the more rules that are passed, the more money, teams will spend!
                      Turn LEFT, Vote RIGHT!

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                      • MasterSbilt_Racer
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2007
                        • 14304

                        #12
                        Originally posted by a25rjr View Post
                        Its called technology!

                        Now the racers know to get the front down and the rear up. No matter what rules are passed, they will figure a way to make it happen.

                        So in essence, the more rules that are passed, the more money, teams will spend!
                        Bodies are a cheap way to fix the cars. Bob Memmer did it. We got here by allowing companies that make body parts to essentially write the rules. Enforce body rules from 2005 and take the spoiler off. Racing would improve tremendously.
                        Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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                        • Josh Bayko
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2007
                          • 8734

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Mike View Post
                          Not to beat a dead horse but people should have listened years ago. It wasn't that hard to see the direction things were headed all you had to do was open your eyes and look around, but It was too easy for some to blame it all on the economy back then I guess.

                          Let me guess.... you can't change aero now because it will obsolete parts people already have SMH
                          Most rule changes do obsolete parts and tend to actually raise cost. You'd obsolete the noses and some body braces with a body change, but most guys are buying new ones before each season anyways. They'd just be buying a different nose instead, so I don't really see an issue with body changes. Something as simple as making them go to solid sail panels would even help some.

                          Wouldn't change the fact that development of new ways to take advantage of the only thing in racing that is free would commence, and everybody else would do the same, and eventually we'll be right back here. The big money teams have ruled over the sport of auto racing since day one. No amount of rule changes is ever going to stop that.
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                          • dirtdobber45
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2015
                            • 7226

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Mike View Post
                            They are running the #ModernDayWedge going back to the old school wedge isn't going to solve anything.
                            So taking that lip off the fenders like the old wedge wouldnt change the aero?
                            If I havent offended you please be patient Ill get to you as soon as I can...... and yes Im a Bloomquist fan...deal w it!!! WWG1WGA!!!

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                            • Bubstr
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 3734

                              #15
                              The Areo thing is easily fixed with a few 2 inch holes around the deck and a straight splitter. My guess is, they don't want to fix it

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