Should Dirt on Dirt cover crate late models

[CIRF]

Weekly SLM is dead, it just doesn't know it yet. SLM will be relegated to just touring series. Engine builders have themselves to blame for it.

There is some credence in what you're saying. I would only add that those same engine builders may be partially responsible for sounding the death knell of most 1/2 mile racetracks around the country.

[Barbecueboy]

Wouldn't most of the coverage be about how they all cheat?

According to most of the experts, the slm guys all cheat too, so?

Smfh

[Barbecueboy]

I wish there was a dod of mods to be quite honest.........

[fastford]

According to most of the experts, the slm guys all cheat too, so?

Smfh

yea, but they spend thousands of dollars to so called cheat , the crates are supposed to be economical so the low budget guys couldn't afford to cheat, therefore the get out run....

[grt74]

$52,000 engines, etc will be more of a reason for the death supers as you know it.

I sincerely doubt the fans at Crossville, Tn were less impressed with those 12:7 laps last week because they were being turned by drivers in a crate.

Top five of
Overton
Welshan
RJ
Jesse Lowe
Chip Brindle

All of those have multiple super victories with the exception of Lowe who I suspect will get his fair share soon as well. If you get your nose out of the air, crates for the most part this year have produced as good or better racing from what I've seen.

I'll always be a super guy, but crates aren't going away.

i buy new engines every year or two and there nowhere near what you are saying,guys need to do there homework

[Barbecueboy]

yea, but they spend thousands of dollars to so called cheat , the crates are supposed to be economical so the low budget guys couldn't afford to cheat, therefore the get out run....

Or, maybe they aren't actually cheating........just better .

Talking about the slm guys.

[THE DOORMAN 4STUHLER]

Nope!!!! No way!!!

[Clayton_Wetter]

Do you fans want crates to put an end to SLM locally and weekly, Just keep supporting them and they will.

Not enough room for both anymore. The Mod class had already depleted the SLM enough. Let alone have yet another class come along. UMP and many promoters are to blame for allowing/creating this.

[ptown]

Do you fans want crates to put an end to SLM locally and weekly, Just keep supporting them and they will.

Not enough room for both anymore. The Mod class had already depleted the SLM enough. Let alone have yet another class come along. UMP and many promoters are to blame for allowing/creating this.

Exactly my point, those things are the poison pill for super late model racing.

Do we also need DOD by covering them to legitimize these late models in drag?

[dirtcrazy4u]

The crate class was started as a alternative to the guys that could not afford to run with the big dogs. Now the big dogs are taking there 80k slm and dropping crate motors in them and are going out and putting a woop arsh on the guys that thought they were going to be running with guys just like themselves. The purses for the weekly competitor is just stupid. So if there is a higher paying show some slm team goes out and cherry picks. That is just going to lead to guys either getting out altogether or looking at another class. So tell me, who wins ? NOBODY ! Crate racing cann't pull the gate to survive on there own. You have to run as many classes as you can so the pit gate makes up for the small crowd in attendance.

[tsand]

People are always saying the crates are cheating by can never offer proof. The top 3 cars at Virginia motorspeedway we're torn down the bare block and we're legal. The motor fregy finished second with is streaght out of the crate from GM. The success of crate racing in all about corner speed not streaght away speed.

[Highwayman]

The only problem is, so many SLM drivers are dipping their toes in the crate money pool now that if DOD didn't slightly cover it, people would be complaining wanting to know how JD or Ronnie Johnson ran in the big crate race, so it is a tough spot for DOD to navigate.

I'll be honest, to 99% of the fans, if you put crate engines in every car that started the World 100 and ran the race again, nobody would notice.

I'd notice they sound awful. Droning on and on, lap after lazy lap. Vote No.

[jr29]

Sure, why not? There is a description of each video and I can easily choose to not click any crate races. If they begin doing that heavily, I'd only hope that staff was added so they dont sacrifice a crew that would ordinarily be at some SLM event. Lets film big street stock races while we are at it.

Exactly. You aren't forced to watch crate videos or read about crate races or look at photos from crate races. If you aren't interested, don't look at any of it. Easy enough.
Some of the bigger southern crate races during the winter also give the site something to cover during the slow months.

[grt74]

the problem with crates in some areas (notice i said some areas) they are just way out of hand, and the owners or promoters are so scared of running someone off they look the other way, i love the idea of cheaper racing but crates are no longer the answer, you have lower classes for a reason, and then just have one class of late models

[Highwayman]

the problem with crates in some areas (notice i said some areas) they are just way out of hand, and the owners or promoters are so scared of running someone off they look the other way, i love the idea of cheaper racing but crates are no longer the answer, you have lower classes for a reason, and then just have one class of late models

It would help if there were some distinction between Supers and Crates besides the engine. Maybe include a tail piece and/or use the older style noses, otherwise they're just droning, lazy late model posers. Even though a CT525 is technically a crate I don't include it in my definition of crate, to me that distinction falls squarely on 602/604 cars. 525's can put on a good show especially when paired with steel block/head limiteds. JMO