Who Actually Pioneered The Lifting of Left Front And All The Rear Steer

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  • MasterSbilt_Racer
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 14310

    #16
    Guys were toting the LF long before Skip's LR behind deal. Everyone toted the LF on the clamped up deal.
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    • MasterSbilt_Racer
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 14310

      #17
      Originally posted by a25rjr View Post
      It was Skip Arp in June, 1997. Skip was driving the GRT house car and shared a lot of info with our team.

      Im not 100% sure when it was available for sale though.
      Most chassis builders started adding the mount to the lr in 1999.
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      • a25rjr
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2016
        • 3774

        #18
        Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
        Most chassis builders started adding the mount to the lr in 1999.
        We got on the Warrior deal, late 97, and before we even got it put together, they sent us a kit to make it lr behind.

        Im pretty sure some were quite a bit earlier than 99.
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        • MasterSbilt_Racer
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 14310

          #19
          Originally posted by a25rjr View Post
          We got on the Warrior deal, late 97, and before we even got it put together, they sent us a kit to make it lr behind.

          Im pretty sure some were quite a bit earlier than 99.
          It was not known to a lot of small time guys til 1998. Pretty sure 1998 Masters cars didn't have it.
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          • MI Dirt Fan
            Banned
            • May 2007
            • 8806

            #20
            Now it's all about the RF and having negative camber.

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            • Krooser
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2012
              • 3117

              #21
              My '94 wide combo MB was a leaf car and was converted around '99-2000...

              MBR is going to be my go-to advisor next season... he's guaranteed me a spot in the World 100 if I just follow his set-up... not sure if I can afford the J-2 jet engine right now but I'm saving my bucks.

              Here's Chubzilla winning at Portsmouth circa early 2000's with a Rocket that was on the hook... the famous 'pass in the grass'...

              Last edited by Krooser; 10-12-2017, 11:24 PM.
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              • MI Dirt Fan
                Banned
                • May 2007
                • 8806

                #22
                Originally posted by Krooser View Post

                Here's Chubzilla winning at Portsmouth circa early 2000's with a Rocket that was on the hook... the famous 'pass in the grass'...

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMAAFu0bWNE
                Speaking of Chub, I just saw somewhere he was going with a 06' or 07' throwback of his own for DTWC

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                • Krooser
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2012
                  • 3117

                  #23
                  cool.......
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                  • Illtsate32
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2015
                    • 3079

                    #24
                    Lol we were carrying the lf on a mod all the way around the track with a 3 link in 96-97 easy drop the rr bar to the bottom hole simple...but wasnt always fastest...compare lap times today and yesteryear theres still track records from years ago just goes toto show todays setups arent necessarily the best...
                    Last edited by Illtsate32; 10-12-2017, 09:01 PM.

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                    • Drop Shock
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2012
                      • 821

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Illtsate32 View Post
                      Lol we were carrying the lf on a mod all the way around the track with a 3 link in 96-97 easy drop the rr bar to the bottom hole simple...but wasnt always fastest...compare lap times today and yesteryear theres still track records from years ago just goes toto show todays setups arent necessarily the best...
                      Track records don't fall because of a lack of water. These cars are not much faster in the mud, but easily 1 to 2 seconds faster in the slick than the cars of 15 years ago. The speeds really don't slow down that much throughout the night now.

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                      • Jim11h
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2007
                        • 1501

                        #26
                        Very accurate true statement....... I wanna say was around 07 that noticed RF stuck out and the camber gain in corners & straights at Eldora. Rockets were main ones but think if memory serves right bloomquist was 1st to do so

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                        • zyoung25
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 8945

                          #27


                          I done my best to find pics, so we could compare how the early 00 cars are to today's cars. Birky and tmac are both at coming off of turn 2 at east bay. Blair and Richards at coming off of 4 at prp.

                          I don't see any difference

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                          • Forward Bite
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2013
                            • 189

                            #28
                            Gary Webb had to be one of the first to lift the front wheel, if not the first.

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                            • MRM
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2007
                              • 2999

                              #29
                              I remember when lifting the left front was all the rage. A few guys like Moyer and Bloomquist never did it that much while many others were. Funny how so many quickly got away from that.
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                              • Illtsate32
                                Senior Member
                                • Jun 2015
                                • 3079

                                #30
                                You always wanted more track width on the front but today that right front is a foot outside the rr at least..I honestly dont see how the rf tire holds up as well as it does as much camber as they are running now days...

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