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  • President Clinton
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2007
    • 490

    #16
    Is there a copyright on chassis????

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    • Barbecueboy
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2013
      • 18116

      #17
      Originally posted by W2Racing09 View Post
      Its probably another site user as you suggested, although if it were Mark or a Rocket employee then I would be thrilled that they were taking a stand against the kind of BS that spreads around on here. Either way I thought the account and post were well timed and it made me laugh.

      Believe it or not BBQ, whenever I post here you do not always have to try to pick a fight or try to cause stuff. You have been doing fine for most of this season without me posting here/arguing with you. Lets continue that trend.

      Thanks,
      Jeff.
      By speaking the truth , I'm trying to cause stuff?.........I feel the same way Jeff,you don't always have to get on the defensive when someone disagrees or has something to say about the nasa group either.

      No beef with you whatsoever, but don't expect me to be some kind of PC phony either.....if it needs to be said, it's probably going to be if I can do it and stay within the forum tire rules.
      Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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      • zeroracing
        Senior Member
        • May 2007
        • 1014

        #18
        They are making a copy, but started off extremely dishonest, they pitched the car originally on Facebook and at local tracks as a Longhorn by Dixie. Giving all implications that they were affiliated with Longhorn chassis, and you were buying a real longhorn. They then changed it to a an LH1. They also have argued to justify the copy. My complaints are I dislike direct copies aware that many cars are close to others, but more importantly I found it to be dishonest to directly imply that they were affiliated with Longhorn.

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        • MasterSbilt_Racer
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 14320

          #19
          Originally posted by Highside Hustler25 View Post
          Dixie also claims they manufacture Rockets and Bloomer chassis. Interesting.
          I thought it was just bumpers and components for those cars?
          Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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          • tb1545
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2012
            • 208

            #20
            There is a huge distinction between the chassis manufacturers games of "copying" each others designs as the 4m know it alls put it and what the dixie metal works guys were doing. The manufacturers get their hands on someone elses chassis, they do take the good ideas from it, but they but their own tweaks on it to make it their own design and market it as such. They put their own thoughts on how to make it better and what materials to use where went into it.
            What the dixie outfit was doing (until they changed all their posts) was they were selling a 2017 Longhorn by Dixie metal works. That would imply that they were either a dealer for longhorn or had permission to make a longhorn chassis, both of which they were not. They also have pictures on their facebook page thanking different guys for bringing their chassis in so they could copy it. I understand repairs and things, but advertising copying someone elses work doesnt usually settle well with most racers.

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            • MasterSbilt_Racer
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 14320

              #21
              Originally posted by tb1545 View Post
              There is a huge distinction between the chassis manufacturers games of "copying" each others designs as the 4m know it alls put it and what the dixie metal works guys were doing. The manufacturers get their hands on someone elses chassis, they do take the good ideas from it, but they but their own tweaks on it to make it their own design and market it as such. They put their own thoughts on how to make it better and what materials to use where went into it.
              What the dixie outfit was doing (until they changed all their posts) was they were selling a 2017 Longhorn by Dixie metal works. That would imply that they were either a dealer for longhorn or had permission to make a longhorn chassis, both of which they were not. They also have pictures on their facebook page thanking different guys for bringing their chassis in so they could copy it. I understand repairs and things, but advertising copying someone elses work doesnt usually settle well with most racers.
              What they did was very wrong, as you stated. But the making it something of their own is not how it has always gone in this game...
              Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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              • MI Dirt Fan
                Banned
                • May 2007
                • 8806

                #22
                Mark Richards posted here a few weeks ago to clear up info on sponsoring a provisional at the Pittsburgher.

                I agree with President Clinton (shockingly lol) is there a copy right? Who's to say I can't buy a car from xxx chassis maker whether it's new or previously raced (maybe a house car) and build my own exact copy using measurements and dimensions. You can build 20 cars altogether in a row with the same parts and materials and they all won't drive the same.

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                • Josh Bayko
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 8749

                  #23
                  Originally posted by President Clinton View Post
                  Is there a copyright on chassis????
                  If a builder applied for a copyright for their chassis, yes.
                  Follow me on Twitter: @JoshBayko

                  Guerrilla Racing Junkies!

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                  • Highside Hustler25
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 12950

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Barbecueboy View Post
                    So gullible........good grief.


                    Good one blackie
                    .............................lol

                    Good one BBQ.
                    8/13/16

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                    • President Clinton
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2007
                      • 490

                      #25
                      What exactly is proprietary in welding tubing together??? Can you even get a patent???

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                      • Highside Hustler25
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 12950

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Jking24 View Post
                        I believe they were referring to the brands that they make bumpers and such for
                        Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
                        I thought it was just bumpers and components for those cars?
                        Very possible. I would be shocked if true. Especially Bloomquist chassis.
                        8/13/16

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                        • MI Dirt Fan
                          Banned
                          • May 2007
                          • 8806

                          #27
                          I guess the only way to know if a car is true to it's original chassis maker is the numbers on the chassis???

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                          • Illtsate32
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2015
                            • 3079

                            #28
                            Originally posted by President Clinton View Post
                            What exactly is proprietary in welding tubing together??? Can you even get a patent???
                            I highly doubt it but even if you can you could copy the, car and make one body brace one degree of an angle different the say its not a copy...

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                            • Barbecueboy
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2013
                              • 18116

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Josh Bayko View Post
                              If a builder applied for a copyright for their chassis, yes.
                              Wouldn't it be a patent instead of a copywrite? I was under the opinion that a copywrite protected the name of something ........like the mcnugget or Tide soap or whatever?

                              Lot of people have those same things they just can't call them that? It's more of a question, im not sure.
                              Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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                              • President Clinton
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2007
                                • 490

                                #30
                                If we can get enough orders, I will hire a welder and fabricator and copy/build Longhorn or Rockets and take my chances in front of a jury!!!! Place your order now

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