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  • MasterSbilt_Racer
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 14320

    #31
    Originally posted by Highside Hustler25 View Post
    Very possible. I would be shocked if true. Especially Bloomquist chassis.
    The guy used to work for Bloomer.
    Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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    • President Clinton
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2007
      • 490

      #32
      Heck Randy Sweet and CJ Rayburn should be suing everyone????????

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      • zeroracing
        Senior Member
        • May 2007
        • 1014

        #33
        Copyrights on Engineering proposals or plans protect your intellectual property. So a set up manual for it would be covered.

        Prime example is the architect that pitched an idea for a sports themed park to Disney they passed but years later built a themed park. He won $248 million from Disney. So the debate is would a copyright if they had one on the design drawings cover it?

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        • Josh Bayko
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 8749

          #34
          Originally posted by Barbecueboy View Post
          Wouldn't it be a patent instead of a copywrite? I was under the opinion that a copywrite protected the name of something ........like the mcnugget or Tide soap or whatever?

          Lot of people have those same things they just can't call them that? It's more of a question, im not sure.
          I think you’re probably right, it probably would be a patent. Thing is, you want to be competitve in the chassis business, you’re going to be making pretty major changes to whatever design fairly often, and I’d imagine that would have implications on the patent if they had one.

          Getting a patent/copyright/trademark isn’t particularly expensive, but the process itself can be a bit of a pain in the ass. I could see it not really being worth the time in a constantly evolving business.
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          • chupp n bloomer fan
            Senior Member
            • May 2007
            • 11526

            #35
            Originally posted by formercrewguy View Post
            No big deal. The XR1 is also a copy of a Longhorn...lol
            Sure it is, just keep repeating yourself. Must really blow when the XR1 has won both championships and placed top 3 or better in the World and the DTWC.
            Up in the air who my next “favorite” driver is. Really losing hope on Bloomer getting anywhere back to “normal”.

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            • fastford
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2008
              • 4059

              #36
              I asked larry shaw a long time ago why he did not apply for a patent and he said it would be to easy to break, change a few bars that are irrelevant and you have a new product....

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              • MasterSbilt_Racer
                Senior Member
                • May 2007
                • 14320

                #37
                Originally posted by chupp n bloomer fan View Post
                Sure it is, just keep repeating yourself. Must really blow when the XR1 has won both championships and placed top 3 or better in the World and the DTWC.
                Its like man and woman. Same creator.
                Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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                • zyoung25
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 8955

                  #38
                  The thing that bothers me about these cars, they're not professionally made. They look nice sitting there, i just wonder how safe they really are?

                  I seen a price, a bare frame was 5600, which is dirt cheap. But again, how safe are they?

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                  • Krooser
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2012
                    • 3117

                    #39
                    Who sez the guys that weld other chassis are professional? There aren't any credntials required... you need electricity, gas, a welder and tubing.

                    And $5600 is about right for a bare late model chassis unless it's the latest boutique piece...

                    BTW... I'm now taking orders for repop'd obsolete Mastersbilt chassis' without the updates.
                    Last edited by Krooser; 10-27-2017, 09:47 AM.
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                    • zyoung25
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 8955

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Krooser View Post
                      Who sez the guys jay weld other chassis are professional? There aren't any credntials required... you need electricity, gas, a welder and tubing.

                      And $5600 is about right for a bare late model chassis unless it's the latest boutique piece...

                      BTW... I'm now taking orders for repop'd obsolete Mastersbilt chassis' without the updates.
                      I have to laugh at how critcal people are on here sometimes.

                      So youre saying i could go get a job at longhorn welding cars together on a daily basis, even though i dont know jack sh!t about welding and you would buy it? Cuz we know what that would look like after its done.
                      Last edited by zyoung25; 10-27-2017, 02:17 AM.

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                      • MasterSbilt_Racer
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2007
                        • 14320

                        #41
                        Originally posted by zyoung25 View Post
                        I have to laugh at how critcal people are on here sometimes.

                        So youre saying i could go get a job at longhorn welding cars together on a daily basis, even though i dont know jack sh!t about welding and you would buy it? Cuz we know what that would look like after its done.
                        There are cars built by people who don't weld all that well. You don't have to be a certified welder. Just build a car and sell it. Or weld good enough for a builder to hire you. In that case, the company is the quality control.
                        Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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                        • chupp n bloomer fan
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2007
                          • 11526

                          #42
                          Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
                          Its like man and woman. Same creator.
                          And again, never seen actual proof of that, rumors yes, but no proof. You get Mark or Kevin on record saying it, fine. And if true, no different than what Longhorn did. Actually not as bad, Longhorns were awful till Kevin, when the XR1 came out, the older Rockets were just a tick off.
                          Up in the air who my next “favorite” driver is. Really losing hope on Bloomer getting anywhere back to “normal”.

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                          • chupp n bloomer fan
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2007
                            • 11526

                            #43
                            Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
                            There are cars built by people who don't weld all that well. You don't have to be a certified welder. Just build a car and sell it. Or weld good enough for a builder to hire you. In that case, the company is the quality control.
                            And that’s scary, because you can make a weld look good, but if you haven’t actually penetrated and made a strong weld, it’s death. And can all be covered up with powder coating.
                            Up in the air who my next “favorite” driver is. Really losing hope on Bloomer getting anywhere back to “normal”.

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                            • Illtsate32
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2015
                              • 3079

                              #44
                              These were mod chassis but...ive seen 4 bar brackets literally ripped off the chassis just from the welds not holding...

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                              • Barbecueboy
                                Senior Member
                                • Mar 2013
                                • 18116

                                #45
                                Originally posted by chupp n bloomer fan View Post
                                And again, never seen actual proof of that, rumors yes, but no proof. You get Mark or Kevin on record saying it, fine. And if true, no different than what Longhorn did. Actually not as bad, Longhorns were awful till Kevin, when the XR1 came out, the older Rockets were just a tick off.
                                Longhorn copied their own chassis.......FYI

                                It's way different what they did......of course they were racing a dump truck chassis.
                                Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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