Zack Dohm dqed from the pond

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  • Clayton_Wetter
    Banned
    • May 2007
    • 16671

    #166
    Originally posted by SLIDING SIDEWAYS View Post
    When you rub the dirt off ur neck its still RED!
    No it's black too.

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    • Brian Gray
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2012
      • 1102

      #167
      Scott , I believe autry just proved the fact that certain drivers get tires from manufacturers that others don’t.

      Remember the ITD interview where. American racer CEO said “we overnited a set of tires with the same compound but it was made with different materials than what the lab had”
      Shocks by BGR army

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      • 71PRPFan
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2010
        • 943

        #168
        Zack said they destroyed the samples after they sent them off on FB??
        04192016

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        • MasterSbilt_Racer
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 14310

          #169
          Originally posted by 71PRPFan View Post
          Zack said they destroyed the samples after they sent them off on FB??
          Samples are destroyed in the process of testing them.
          Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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          • Drop Shock
            Senior Member
            • May 2012
            • 821

            #170
            Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
            Samples are destroyed in the process of testing them.
            The driver's set of samples are not supposed to be destroyed. They should be saved for an appeal. Another thing wrong this testing procedure

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            • Illtsate32
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2015
              • 3079

              #171
              I am still opposed to doping but im starting to ride the fence on the testing...we the public or at least the defendents should be able to get every bit of info on how the testing procedure is done, and what exactly they do or do not find in the tire and also the amount or how concentrated the substance is found in the tire, that alone they should be able to tell if the tire was soaked or if there were just trace amonts found...
              Last edited by Illtsate32; 10-30-2017, 04:47 PM.

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              • Illtsate32
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2015
                • 3079

                #172
                And lets be honest do we really know that doping improves your chances to win every time out? Could doping ever work against you? I think different track conditions different type dirt in diff parts of the country in different weather, tires will wear and react in diff ways...imo doping a tire with whatever method or theory you have can be a gamble and work against you in some cases..point is I dont think its a huge advantage every time out like some people think...
                Last edited by Illtsate32; 10-30-2017, 04:48 PM.

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                • Barbecueboy
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 18116

                  #173
                  It's stupid.........except for the folks making the tires......then it's brilliant.
                  Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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                  • bleedsbluer2
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2011
                    • 684

                    #174
                    So they destroyed the tire sample which is supposed to be the evidence so if he appealed this got a lawyer all they have is a statement on paper says he was illegal but no tire samples left to prove it in the court of law by law i dont see how they could d.q. a driver take his winnings without samples to be tested again and d.q any driver without knowing exactly what product made them illegal if i was zack i be talking to a lawyer sounds like bad coruption by a bad series

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                    • SLIDING SIDEWAYS
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 7658

                      #175
                      ^^^^^^ sounds like liteys post ^^^^^^
                      THE REAL SLIDING SIDEWAYS!

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                      • MasterSbilt_Racer
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2007
                        • 14310

                        #176
                        Originally posted by Illtsate32 View Post
                        And lets be honest do we really know that doping improves your chances to win every time out? Could doping ever work against you? I think different track conditions different type dirt in diff parts of the country in different weather, tires will wear and react in diff ways...imo doping a tire with whatever method or theory you have can be a gamble and work against you in some cases..point is I dont think its a huge advantage every time out like some people think...
                        I guess it depends on if you know what you are doing or what to buy. I have seen it lose races for sure.
                        Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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                        • Illtsate32
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2015
                          • 3079

                          #177
                          I mean for being such a taboo subject I would think it would be kind of hard to compile data on it with all the testing that is done..it gives people a psycological edge no doubt...

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                          • let-r-eat
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2007
                            • 2319

                            #178
                            Tire testing in my mind is no different than accepting the tracks scale weight after the feature. We could come up with all kinds of funny business regarding calibration/certification etc but when it comes down to it the rules enforcing officials are the rules enforcing officials.

                            We as fans can question the testing/tech procedures as can the racers, but in the end, the track/sanctioning body is the judge/jury/executioner.
                            BUCKLE UP NOW, YA HEAR?

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                            • Centeroff
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2016
                              • 1896

                              #179
                              This is the same lab that for sure made mistakes at Eldora. It’s a machine that runs the test. No machine is perfect and I guarantee that. You blow a .09 on a breathalyzer and when the blood work comes back it is a .03. Could have ran a chemical on the track or pits. Innocent until proven guilty and I’m not sold on this lap that constantly catches the “cheaters”. My 2 cents

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                              • Barbecueboy
                                Senior Member
                                • Mar 2013
                                • 18116

                                #180
                                Have they announced the winners from whynot yet??? I'm trying to get excited for a doozy of a finish.
                                Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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