Will Francis control what he was complaining about or just collect a paycheck?

[Drop Shock]

Well we have outlawed nitrous oxide systems. You cannot run a turbo system or fuel injection system. We have outlawed traction control. We have outlawed the wedge car (well except for the ones we have NOW). So products can and are not allowed all the time.

Is traction control regularly checked for?

[TackyTracker]

sounds like nothing gets checked

[Illtsate32]

I seen a 2018 car where im not kiddin ya there was 6 inches of rake at least on his roof...not front to back..side to side! its getting extremely ridiculous why dont they just let em put a wing up there get it over with smfh...

[hucktyson]

The lucas cars at PRI had the back decks sloped 10+ inches lol. That would cost a few hours to fix and slow the cars down but that article made it very clear there will not be any changes.

[blncfn57]

The simple answer to the question is "NO" and it's not gonna be any fault of Steve's. The sanctioning bodies know who butters their bread......

[flagone]

dirtcrazy4u YES nitrous can and is used on circle tracks frequently. Not at the late model level so much but there is a reason why its in the rule book.

Turbos REGULARLY run on dirt in some of the FWD divisions. If it weren't illegal I PROMISE that people would have it and win with it.

[Phatdaddy]

So why is no series enforcing their body rules?

A simple piece of string and a tape measure is all it takes!

Just take a look at the Series' websites and look who the title sponsors are. That answers a lot of questions.

[Bubstr]

Well we have outlawed nitrous oxide systems. You cannot run a turbo system or fuel injection system. We have outlawed traction control. We have outlawed the wedge car (well except for the ones we have NOW). So products can and are not allowed all the time.

This quote and the statement of Francis, saying every time there is a stroke from the pen, it costs someone money.

Who did these rules cost and what was the given reason for them? Let me help. Nitrious, turbos and fuel injection where outlawed to help aftermarket engine business. they cost the low buck racer, because now they couldn't get cheap hp, they had to buy the expensive stuff from the aftermarket engine and carb builders. Take traction control, is it cheaper to buy flat curve spread bore engines? It does cost someone every time that pen comes out. Some can afford it and some can't.

I was around when they said NO2 was dangerous. Sure some dummies popped some engines. Your confusing it with Hydrazine, if you think it killed people. It's ingredients are 1 part Nitrogen ( inert gas) and 2 parts Oxygen. It just tricked a engine into believing it was bigger than it was as long as you put enough fuel with it. Cheap HP even if it was a bit tricky to tune.

The worse rules are the ones that are unenforceable or just too hard to enforce. Tire dopeing rules for one. Waiting a week to find out who won a race is ridiculous. Not showing proof of contaminants is too. May as well say guilty, because I said so. yea right. Building code rules are printed from the blood of victims. Where are the lists of dead people from WD40 or oil of wintergreen? This costs someone. Just put the carcinogen on a list and say if you use it, you are banned forever. It costs only the one that deserves it then. Who did the Rumlyey devise cost? Everyone that is inventive on their own. If some aftermarket parts store doesn't sell it, it's illegal. That cost the inventor and anyone that may invent. Now you have to make it available to everyone, for a price, to be legal. The well funded team got a break with that rule. There will be nothing you can use, that they can't buy. These rule books are a joke and I can't see how Steve Francis can enforce it.

[Barbecueboy]

Wow..........somebody has fallen and they can't get up.

Push the button bubby,someone will come help you.

[Krooser]

Bubstr has some valid points... If you want to see unenforceable rules look at a Wissota rulebook... 50 pages of regulations before you get to the first rule dealing with the cars...

[dirty-white-boy]

This quote and the statement of Francis, saying every time there is a stroke from the pen, it costs someone money.

Who did these rules cost and what was the given reason for them? Let me help. Nitrious, turbos and fuel injection where outlawed to help aftermarket engine business. they cost the low buck racer, because now they couldn't get cheap hp, they had to buy the expensive stuff from the aftermarket engine and carb builders. Take traction control, is it cheaper to buy flat curve spread bore engines? It does cost someone every time that pen comes out. Some can afford it and some can't.

I was around when they said NO2 was dangerous. Sure some dummies popped some engines. Your confusing it with Hydrazine, if you think it killed people. It's ingredients are 1 part Nitrogen ( inert gas) and 2 parts Oxygen. It just tricked a engine into believing it was bigger than it was as long as you put enough fuel with it. Cheap HP even if it was a bit tricky to tune.

The worse rules are the ones that are unenforceable or just too hard to enforce. Tire dopeing rules for one. Waiting a week to find out who won a race is ridiculous. Not showing proof of contaminants is too. May as well say guilty, because I said so. yea right. Building code rules are printed from the blood of victims. Where are the lists of dead people from WD40 or oil of wintergreen? This costs someone. Just put the carcinogen on a list and say if you use it, you are banned forever. It costs only the one that deserves it then. Who did the Rumlyey devise cost? Everyone that is inventive on their own. If some aftermarket parts store doesn't sell it, it's illegal. That cost the inventor and anyone that may invent. Now you have to make it available to everyone, for a price, to be legal. The well funded team got a break with that rule. There will be nothing you can use, that they can't buy. These rule books are a joke and I can't see how Steve Francis can enforce it.

Well said. There is not a body on that tour that will pass what the tech book says now. NONE. So back to my original post and the fact that the new Tech Director was so outspoken to the cars getting out of hand, is he really going to enforce the rules? The only way to make them change is to not pass tech or make an example of someone and send them home until the come back with it right. (Walt Burson).

[Krooser]

Let's hope Mr Francis has a say in the rules...

[billetbirdcage]

Let's hope Mr Francis has a say in the rules...

Make no mistake: He gets to have input, but he doesn't make or write the rules that falls on Lucas Oil as a whole or the council. All he has control of is enforcing the rules as written of the time of tech.

[a25rjr]

No Series? You sure about that?

NONE!......ask any of us who have worked on dlms. The body rules are not being enforced!

[chupp n bloomer fan]

I for the life of me cannot figure out why they do not enforce the body rules.

A fukin tape measure, straight edge, flat ground, and maybe some templates, and bam. You either meet the requirements, or break out the cutters, rivet gun, etc.