Will Francis control what he was complaining about or just collect a paycheck?

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

I for the life of me cannot figure out why they do not enforce the body rules.

A fukin tape measure, straight edge, flat ground, and maybe some templates, and bam. You either meet the requirements, or break out the cutters, rivet gun, etc.

Me neither. But, in the Memmer days of UMP, Eldora tech was a bear because they did enforce. lol.

[Clayton_Wetter]

One man working for an organisation? I don't see anything to talk about here. Things will basically be the same.

[Highwayman]

This quote and the statement of Francis, saying every time there is a stroke from the pen, it costs someone money.

Who did these rules cost and what was the given reason for them? Let me help. Nitrious, turbos and fuel injection where outlawed to help aftermarket engine business. they cost the low buck racer, because now they couldn't get cheap hp, they had to buy the expensive stuff from the aftermarket engine and carb builders. Take traction control, is it cheaper to buy flat curve spread bore engines? It does cost someone every time that pen comes out. Some can afford it and some can't.

I was around when they said NO2 was dangerous. Sure some dummies popped some engines. Your confusing it with Hydrazine, if you think it killed people. It's ingredients are 1 part Nitrogen ( inert gas) and 2 parts Oxygen. It just tricked a engine into believing it was bigger than it was as long as you put enough fuel with it. Cheap HP even if it was a bit tricky to tune.

The worse rules are the ones that are unenforceable or just too hard to enforce. Tire dopeing rules for one. Waiting a week to find out who won a race is ridiculous. Not showing proof of contaminants is too. May as well say guilty, because I said so. yea right. Building code rules are printed from the blood of victims. Where are the lists of dead people from WD40 or oil of wintergreen? This costs someone. Just put the carcinogen on a list and say if you use it, you are banned forever. It costs only the one that deserves it then. Who did the Rumlyey devise cost? Everyone that is inventive on their own. If some aftermarket parts store doesn't sell it, it's illegal. That cost the inventor and anyone that may invent. Now you have to make it available to everyone, for a price, to be legal. The well funded team got a break with that rule. There will be nothing you can use, that they can't buy. These rule books are a joke and I can't see how Steve Francis can enforce it.

Far and away the best, most honest post in this entire thread. To the dude offering up "Nitrous, Turbo's and Fuel injection" as evidence of rules being enforced is a few decades behind, I mean c'mon. Body rule enforcement is a huge joke. The sanctioning bodies have the same issues as our government, they ignore the people and pander to the lobbyist(manufacturers). I don't foresee Steve getting anything done except for being frustrated, politics, politics, politics. Money talks and the manufacturers pony up for what they want. The nose guy dictates what the body rules(cough, cough) will be and its whatever exaggerated bulldozer creation he dreamt up in the off season.

[flagone]

I was speaking to the person who said you can't outlaw products. Not making any other point. And there again a25j you sure. Because I watched my tech guys pull string and add weight penalties at about 22 races this year.

[a25rjr]

I was speaking to the person who said you can't outlaw products. Not making any other point. And there again a25j you sure. Because I watched my tech guys pull string and add weight penalties at about 22 races this year.

Honestly, I haven't been to one of your series races. Glad to see you enforce your rule book!

Now, if Lucas/Woo will???

[Barbecueboy]

Honestly, I haven't been to one of your series races. Glad to see you enforce your rule book!

Now, if Lucas/Woo will???

Been lucky enough to have seen a few, they don't just talk the talk......

[skicker]

My hats of to Steve for anything positive that he is able to accomplish.
I recently read the rules at our local track for all divisions. After not being around dirt racing for about 15 years I was shocked at how screwed up they are.
What idiot wrote them to begin with? How many times have they been cut-copied and modified adding information that contradicts itself to rules 2 lines previous.
Moons ago when I ran the rules were written a lot better. Especially those by UMP. .02

[Illtsate32]

Slightly off topic but if the ump mod body rules are anything close to what they were ten years ago you can wipe ur butt with that page...the top 250 in points would fail every rule in it...

[zach51]

Enforcing the punishment is just as important as enforcing the rule itself. Don't be a joke like WOO was last year and ban Madden for tires during a stretch where the series didn't even have any races. Don't let these guys appeal until there is a 3-4 week stretch of no series sanctioned races and then enforce their penalty then, that is BS.

[Highwayman]

I was speaking to the person who said you can't outlaw products. Not making any other point. And there again a25j you sure. Because I watched my tech guys pull string and add weight penalties at about 22 races this year.

Well that's good to hear for Ultimate, but WoO/Lucas dictate policy anymore. As far as I can see they are completely deaf and devoid of any understanding of how race cars actually work. Essentially about 12 guys at the top decide what all the rest of us have to put up with or we can just walk away. I did, Hello non-wing sprints.

[Krooser]

Both series needs to build a rules legal car and use that as a baseline... give the cheaters two events to get their car right or hit the road...