Dirt on Dirt

[PITTSBURGH]

better up the limit on your debit card cuz a monthly subscription is $11.99!! lol

If you would pay yearly cuz, it would only cost you $8.33 a month. Do the math.

[blncfn57]

If you would pay yearly cuz, it would only cost you $8.33 a month. Do the math.

I can do math..... lol I was just razzing you cuz you said you'd pay $10/ month.

[waaac77]

Yep I was way off. My apologies.

[mudmaker]

Wow some of this has really gone quite mental, huh.
I simply started this as I’m one who doesn’t NEED TO KNOW the minute a race ends somewhere who won and who wrecked.
Quite often I forgot I even had a subscription to DOD. It just auto renewed and price increase added and that was that. So, for me it’s not worth it.
If you want to find out who won or see the action on the track, go to the race and buy a ticket. Spend a little on food and help generate some income so the promoter can pay the purses. Imo, some of this ppv stuff really hurts ticket sales and I can’t see where the provider paying the track to televise a race can ever make up for the loss. Face it, the viewership of ppv keep getting bigger. Also means the attendance will dwindle. I very much doubt the dollar to dollar comparison is equal across the board.
So gout and attend some races! Don’t just be a keyboard quarterback!

[huskerdirt]

If PPVs were actually hurting ticket sales. Then tracks and companies like DoD would stop having them. That’s simple economics. People have this perception that thousand upon thousand people are watching PPVs. It’s really in the hundreds at the most.

[Kwd1253]

Because some the money from ppv buys go to the promoter. Not every can take off make 8-12 hr+ drive. With your logic they are better off losing money not having ppv buys and people still can’t make it to the event. Genuine thinking right there! Just ask Floyd how much ppv buys hurt him because people didn’t fly cross country/world to see him and Conor fight at the MGM.

[Bubstr]

To keep or cancel the DOD subscription is a individual choice. I've had mine for quite a while and plan to keep it as long as it's enjoyable. There are some issues with the PPV and vids that irritate me some, so I think I'm not buying PPV. That would be not enough volume for this old guy to hear the program. I'm not sure why they set the sound so low, as everyone can turn it down, but can't turn it up, if it's not available. Last night, I hooked it to the TV and had to turn the volume all the way up to hear. to hear, but I'm really hard of hearing. The other thing is with all these camera angles, how do the miss so much of the action? You would think they could show something other than the leader, when some one is moving up from the back to the tune of passing half the field. That was where the real race was. Why couldn't they record that and play during down time. Instead we see tight shots of the leader or the camera man's favorite drivers. Sometimes the announcers are calling a completely different race, than what we are seeing. It makes you feel like your paying full ticket price, fora less than premium show. I think the cameramen should have areas that they all shoot, then have a director organize what is seen, and have at least some of the cameras hooked to the announcers race. I guess, it's annoying when the announcer says so in so just passed 20 cars and we haven't seen so in so on the screen at all. Then so in so barrel rolls and we didn't see that either, but dod wants full ticket price for it. I'll keep my subscription, because I get more enjoyment from it than frustration. Then maybe some of us, just want too much for our dollar.

[Andrews42FAN]

I have been a DoD subscriber for a number of years and do enjoy what they bring to the world of DLM racing. While I intend to continue my subscription, they are nearing the edge of pricing themselves out. And for many that have responded to the thread they already have exceeded a palatable price point.

DoD should become more creative with their subscription model and establish subscription tiers that provide options commensurate with content by tier. For example, if you subscribe to Tier 1 you are in at $100.00 per year and receive unlimited content for that fee. Tier 2, Tier 3, Specials only, etc. would represent less content as well as a lower monthly or annual subscription fees.

A Tier 1 subscriber should receive the option to select two PPV events at no charge annually and all other PPV within Tier 1 should be at a discount as a reward for paying annually for the Tier 1 subscription.

[Bob Hubbard]

As long as im working I think its a good service .... Once I retire I see myself cutting back on all the extra's .... They provide a good service which im happy with ....

[DirtFan49]

I’ve been a subscriber since they started in 2007, with all the social media out there now, I see a lot of the news before they even post it. I’m seriously thinking of canceling mine as well dues to another increase.

[Snake X3]

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Hey man! Your problems with the volume must be on your end because if anything the volume for DoD vids and PPV are a bit louder than on other sites. I'm sure I could help you figure it out if I was at your place. Unless you are a PC guru, I'd ask someone that is to help you with the issue.

I'm not sure how the announcers for DoD call the races, but in order for them to synch up with the cameras they need to be watching them. I remember on a LucasTV race Bob Dillnar was telling James Essex how to call a TV race and told him that is what he needed to do to stay in synch with what people were watching. Maybe that isn't true for DoD, but that is just what I had heard the one time on Lucas.

[WildBill32]

I have been a monthly member since 20015. I love DOD! But, hardly ever get a discount on all the live PFVs. I have ordered. I think every member should get a discount for any a live PFV. I watched Gateway for free this year on youtube. Then watched the highlights the next day on DOD. They have out priced me. I'm just going to take a break from it for a while. And see if things change. I can't aford the yearly membership all paid at one time right now. I do really enjoy DOD though.

[wfofan]

Yearly cost is less than price of me and the wife hitting the nearest track for 1 single race (gas,eats,drinks,tickets...)
Subscribe if you want, if not stfu about the price...
Nothing worth having is cheap, and DOD is worth every $ you pay... 4M has some outstanding members and like everything else in life has a handful of poor pitiful me mommy little boys who whine and cry about having to wipe their own a$$...
Grow up and be somebody, as Dave Ramsey would say, if you want something and can't afford it...get a freaking job or 3...
Dirt on Dirt is hands down the best platform for any True Dirt Fan but I would agree it's not for Whiney A$$ Wanna Be's...
Happy New Year!!!

[CIRF]

DoD is a good product but they're coming very close to overpricing themselves. We'll stick with them for the nearer future but if they continue to raise their rates we'll have to reconsider.

[DirtonDirt]

Thought I had addressed most of this ... but I'll gladly hop on again and take another crack at it.

1) As I mentioned in my original post ... unless something drastically changes on how we include PPV's in subcription (no plan at this time too ... although you may receive one in the near future as part of subscription cost) .... there are NO PLANS ANY TIME SOON to raise prices at all. Again this was all about staff, covering races, expense ... but again ... ZERO PLANS for a long time to touch price after this increase. Book that.

2) The only thing that would make it go up ... was if we said .... "okay the entire UMP Summernationals are included in subscription" or something like that. But again ... we can't really do that....and no plans to do so in the future.

3) Regarding those that want "tiers", etc .... as I explained in the original post. We share PPV revenue with promoters and sanctions ... therefore we can't "mix those models" .... if we included PPV's in the cost of your subscription, there would be no "new revenue" to share after an event. That simply won't work, and can't.

4) Volume issues. Honestly have never heard that one, or gotten that complaint. Give me a call or text and perhaps I an walk you through how to fix it.

5) "Announcer sync" ... I obsessively re-watch our PPV's. The sync between announcers and cameras bats at least 85-90% .... and that's a really good rate. Does it get "off" from time to time yes ... but we are VERY on things. And keep in mind ... while we work very closely with the announcers ... they do every once and awhile grab something that we don't have ... and we simply can't control it ... it's gonna happen.

6) Regarding "shooting the leaders"... my philosophy is pretty simple. This is a race ... to the finish. Very little is more important than the lead. Now if someone is charging through the field ... we WILL grab it, and most of the time do. We often Double-Box as well if you've seen our PPV's. That adds alot. But at the end of the day, as they used to say on PRN ... NOTHING is more important than the lead. Imagine the outrage if we miss a massive pass for the lead ... that'd be worse than ... "you missed the battle for 12th".

7) Finally .... we do our best ... that's about all I can give. Our best. We hope it's enough.

Thanks everyone!