2018 Gateway Dirt Nationals - Midgets added to the DOME race.

[Illtsate32]

Phil, I take no issue with you're saying. But, if you had been at Lincoln last July you would see why the promoter might be anxious to throw the midgets into the mix. The crowd at Lincoln was one of the largest I've ever seen at a local, weekly racetrack. The racing was incredible in regards to both the midgets and the late models.It makes no difference if you believe it or not. The facts are that the St. Louis event has happened just twice. Face it, this deal isn't the World Hundred, Knoxville Sprint Car Nationals, Turkey Night Grand Prix or The Chili Bowl. Any one of those events are a resume' maker for the winner in their respective divisions and The Chili Bowl gets the winner a huge amount of national attention from the racing world as a whole.Next November/December will be the very first time for any dirt open wheel division to be a part of it. We don't know the payout yet but besides that the midget portion will most likely be on a par with the two USAC National Midget shows at Du Quoin. In other words, it will be a nice win but nowhere near a career maker like those shows I mentioned above. Kyle Larson said in an interview recently that he wants to win The Chili Bowl more than he does the Daytona 500. Can you honestly put the St. Louis deal in the same category? I don't think so, and I know no one that does.............accept you! LOL! I really hope they can get Larson, Bell, Stenhouse, Pittman, Kasey Kahne and others to St. Louis for this deal but it's going to take more than the prestige of winning it to do it.Ten years from now it might be a whole other story but today, not so much.

1st of all *except...2nd those guys run outlaw carts on a Wednesday night if they can, it doent have to be a career making race for them to show, so again why would these guys not show up to the dome with 20+ thousand people to watch them? It sure dont sound like you want these guys to show for some reason...

[CIRF]

I understand the promoters stand on this but the question is, what is the need? Have a separate date for another class. Let the fans decide what they want to see...

Midgets would be my first choice here if I seen a need, but I don't. Leave this show alone.... That's my choice.

You make a good point, Phil. I would be there Saturday night whether the midgets are there or not since they're not running against Du Quoin. It's a given that something is going to have to be done about car count or they'll need to be racing at noon and they'll still be racing at 11 PM. I too would prefer for the midgets to be a stand alone deal like they are at Du Quoin and The Chili Bowl but given that this deal hasn't got any momentum yet it's probably better from the promoters' standpoint to combine the classes.

1st of all *except...2nd those guys run outlaw carts on a Wednesday night if they can, it doent have to be a career making race for them to show, so again why would these guys not show up to the dome with 20+ thousand people to watch them? It sure don't sound like you want these guys to show for some reason...

Lets get one thing straight, you really don't know for sure who I would like to see show up but one thing is for sure, I want to see the likes of Rico, Larson and Bell to show up to race midgets regardless of the venue. Since you don't know what you're talking about don't try to put words in my mouth.

This is getting boring but I'll try one more time. Larson, Sammy, Rico, Damion Gardner among some others have yet to ever show up at Du Quoin for either the December race or the March race. And believe me, in the midget world the Du Quoin events carry as much weight as any indoor event except The Chili Bowl and for sure more than a first year unsanctioned event. Dave Darland has been to Du Quoin a time or two but not lately. If the promoter can hype it up enough to get the really big dogs there then more power to him. The same promoter conned some of them into taking part in the biggest debacle in the history of racing over at Indy so anything is possible!

From the video of the Saturday night crowd at St. Louis it would take documentation to make 20,000+ believable. Larson's favorite event, The Chili Bowl, draws close to 20,000 5 nights in a row and it'll be 6 nights in a row in 2019 and that's with just one class racing! 15,000 seats sold and the pit side bleachers are GA for those that have pit passes.

Sorry so long but it's like trying to explain neurosurgery to a 3rd grader.

[3 wide]

If it is taking them 7 hrs to run 2 classes they sure don't need to be adding any classes and they aren't going to get Larson ,bell,Khane an Rico etc. it want have the prestige as the chili bowl.

[Illtsate32]

You just like to hear yourself talk...and please stop acting like your're always schooling somebody with your rambling, all that garbage and still didnt say a thing...

[3 wide]

Just making a point who wants to sit at a race track 7 hrs

[Cardirt0]

Just making a point who wants to sit at a race track 7 hrs

If I was not sick I would if 6 hours of it was racing

[Mindwalker]

I could if they raced the intire time with an intermission half way through for track prep and streach the legs a bit.

[Mindwalker]

3 wide, I think illstate32 was talking to CIRF

[Cardirt0]

You just like to hear yourself talk...and please stop acting like your're always schooling somebody with your rambling, all that garbage and still didnt say a thing...

Its the same thing as you and you love for bobby you say we Hate him when we don't... Just don't like some of the things he does, , Just because you love or hate something don't mean others do....

[zach51]

Whoever would prefer 50 modifieds over 50 midgets needs mental help.

[Cardirt0]

Whoever would prefer 50 modifieds over 50 midgets needs mental help.

There is a lot that need mental help for way more things then that on here...lol

[Mindwalker]

Whoever would prefer 50 modifieds over 50 midgets needs mental help.

Well then sighn me into the nearest facility!!!! Give me meds and mods any day over midgets. 😜

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

killed it for me when you added midgets not a fan of them

Midgets are creepy.

[Mindwalker]

Midgets are creepy.

We mus'nt refer to them as midgets... Dwarf's are more acceptable today.

[zach51]

Lol yes they are "little cars"