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  • mcarter815
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2016
    • 1690

    #16
    Originally posted by KAOS View Post
    They are coming just type in GM all Electric and you will see, Clayton you might be right but I think all electric is closer than you think.
    Tesla just set a record of 670 miles on a single charge. Just need to figure out a fast charge system which should be doable in 10 years. The instant torque makes the Tesla cars pretty sporty.

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    • dirtcrazy4u
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2017
      • 3212

      #17
      They will always have a performance division.

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      • IZZOJR16
        Senior Member
        • May 2007
        • 2176

        #18
        Is chevy really making a lot of money off dirt racing? If so, I'm surprised, thought they had bigger fish to fry

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        • chupp n bloomer fan
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 11526

          #19
          Originally posted by IZZOJR16 View Post
          Is chevy really making a lot of money off dirt racing? If so, I'm surprised, thought they had bigger fish to fry
          Of course not off of just dirt racing, racing as a whole. And performance parts in general. Is it comparable to their car sales, I highly doubt it, but it’s money, and keeping your name out there in the motorsports industry. Some of it mixing with their high performance stuff.

          They’d quit if it didn’t benefit them. Just as Mopar is outta circle track again.
          Up in the air who my next “favorite” driver is. Really losing hope on Bloomer getting anywhere back to “normal”.

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          • fastford
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2008
            • 4059

            #20
            sorry guys , i guess im a little prejudice , but this is not just a chevy vs ford issue to me , it also effects a part of my lively hood being a engine builder , or any one else that likes the accomplishment of building there own engines. And C n B fan , ford tried to offer a comparable engine and the powers that be said NO , so WTF....... Ford has always been treated this way , in 1972 ford finally finished the cammer 427 after 7 years R&R , niel bonnett took it to daytona in febuary and waxed all the hemi,s and BBC and guess what , next day big bill banned them , just like they claimed it was bobby allison that brought on restricter plates with his wreck , BS , it was bill elliot polishing there azz with that errnie elliott ford HP that did it , so before you say ford turned there back , study the history ........

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            • MasterSbilt_Racer
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 14304

              #21
              Originally posted by fastford View Post
              sorry guys , i guess im a little prejudice , but this is not just a chevy vs ford issue to me , it also effects a part of my lively hood being a engine builder , or any one else that likes the accomplishment of building there own engines. And C n B fan , ford tried to offer a comparable engine and the powers that be said NO , so WTF....... Ford has always been treated this way , in 1972 ford finally finished the cammer 427 after 7 years R&R , niel bonnett took it to daytona in febuary and waxed all the hemi,s and BBC and guess what , next day big bill banned them , just like they claimed it was bobby allison that brought on restricter plates with his wreck , BS , it was bill elliot polishing there azz with that errnie elliott ford HP that did it , so before you say ford turned there back , study the history ........
              They don't want guys that do anything themselves in the sport any more.
              Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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              • lindsey97
                Member
                • Mar 2011
                • 84

                #22
                The NeSmith series I would expect to be all GM as NeSmith is a GM dealer. Now some of the other crate series should look at other brand crate motors I think. But the crate thing in general, in my opinion, was brought on by racers themselves and promotors not willing to tech motors. I would love to be able to build my own motor, but I can't compete with Andy Duhram motors. So,,,, I run a crate late model. It's what I can afford to race. If the tracks would tech motors there wouldn't be 4 NeSmith crate classes.
                But on the other hand, I like it because I know its not the motor beating me, it's me as a driver and a set up artist. For me it just takes one factor out of the equation that I'm not constantly working on. But on another hand, our setups are getting where the crate motors can run WFO and if the track is hooked up its a freight train at times. There's a lot of bad with the good and a lot of good with the bad. For me it lets me run a late model and not a street car. I like crates.

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                • a25rjr
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2016
                  • 3774

                  #23
                  Originally posted by KAOS View Post
                  Their goal is to get rid of them in the future I doubt they are making internal combustion engines 10 years from now.
                  God help us, if they do!

                  You can count me out, if I don't hear the rumble of a V-8!
                  Turn LEFT, Vote RIGHT!

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                  • CageFaraday
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2017
                    • 685

                    #24
                    Originally posted by fastford View Post
                    congratulation,s GM and NESMITH , we now have 4 crate classes at talladega short track (TST) , you guys bank account should be in pretty good shape , there is now only 2 classes left that dont require a chevy engine purchased from you , super,s and hot shots , OH , I forgot , if you want to run a street stock with 2brl stock carb and pull 200 extra pounds , you can run street stock , lol , IROC has finaly made its way to TST...........
                    I feel you bro, crates are everywhere and boring as he!!. At least in the midwest they're starting to let built motors play too.

                    Originally posted by mcarter815 View Post
                    Tesla just set a record of 670 miles on a single charge. Just need to figure out a fast charge system which should be doable in 10 years. The instant torque makes the Tesla cars pretty sporty.
                    The amount of tech and weight involved to make an electric car do that is astounding and instant torque on dirt would be utterly useless unless you allow TC and that would totally suck. Are they gonna have charging stations for everyone? I don't see Electric making its way into dirt anytime soon. Tesla dude keeps making huge claims and promises that don't come true, pie in the sky. Only Millennial's get excited about electric cars, but they fell for "snap chat" too as an investment and that was a bust... You can't even take Tesla on vacation, it won't make it from Georgia to the beach without a stop over. Besides, there is still enough oil reserves on Alaska's North Slope alone to supply the USA with enough fuel for 200 more years, FACT. Have you seen what happens when you wreck a Tesla and the battery ruptures? Not pretty and requires HAZMAT team to handle clean up. Racing will disappear before it ever goes electric. The all Electric F1 type series is nearly bankrupt now and dull, dull, dull. Part of the excitement of racing is the roar of the engines, not the whine of an electric pallet jack. Not dissing you, just electric cars and electric racing, it'll never work on dirt especially, that and electric car sales are in decline as the economy improves, nobody wants a $100K car that can't make it to the beach...
                    “Yeah, well, you know, that’s just, like, your opinion, man.” — The Dude

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                    • chupp n bloomer fan
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2007
                      • 11526

                      #25
                      Originally posted by fastford View Post
                      sorry guys , i guess im a little prejudice , but this is not just a chevy vs ford issue to me , it also effects a part of my lively hood being a engine builder , or any one else that likes the accomplishment of building there own engines. And C n B fan , ford tried to offer a comparable engine and the powers that be said NO , so WTF....... Ford has always been treated this way , in 1972 ford finally finished the cammer 427 after 7 years R&R , niel bonnett took it to daytona in febuary and waxed all the hemi,s and BBC and guess what , next day big bill banned them , just like they claimed it was bobby allison that brought on restricter plates with his wreck , BS , it was bill elliot polishing there azz with that errnie elliott ford HP that did it , so before you say ford turned there back , study the history ........
                      Not sure if you are implying I said Ford turned their back, but I never said that one bit, Mopar stepped away again.

                      It’s money man, Ford may have offered an equal engine, but if you ain’t lining the pockets and patting the right people on the back, you are SOL. And yes, Wild Bill was waxing them in the Melling 9. NASCAR was great for that. One manufacturer gets a leg up, they in turn give the others more breaks.
                      Up in the air who my next “favorite” driver is. Really losing hope on Bloomer getting anywhere back to “normal”.

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                      • mcarter815
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2016
                        • 1690

                        #26
                        Originally posted by CageFaraday View Post
                        I feel you bro, crates are everywhere and boring as he!!. At least in the midwest they're starting to let built motors play too. The amount of tech and weight involved to make an electric car do that is astounding and instant torque on dirt would be utterly useless unless you allow TC and that would totally suck. Are they gonna have charging stations for everyone? I don't see Electric making its way into dirt anytime soon. Tesla dude keeps making huge claims and promises that don't come true, pie in the sky. Only Millennial's get excited about electric cars, but they fell for "snap chat" too as an investment and that was a bust... You can't even take Tesla on vacation, it won't make it from Georgia to the beach without a stop over. Besides, there is still enough oil reserves on Alaska's North Slope alone to supply the USA with enough fuel for 200 more years, FACT. Have you seen what happens when you wreck a Tesla and the battery ruptures? Not pretty and requires HAZMAT team to handle clean up. Racing will disappear before it ever goes electric. The all Electric F1 type series is nearly bankrupt now and dull, dull, dull. Part of the excitement of racing is the roar of the engines, not the whine of an electric pallet jack. Not dissing you, just electric cars and electric racing, it'll never work on dirt especially, that and electric car sales are in decline as the economy improves, nobody wants a $100K car that can't make it to the beach...
                        I think part of the death of short track racing will be the rise of electric cars. That mixed with the fact that young people today aren’t interested in owning a car or even learning how to drive because of the rise of Uber and self-driving cars coming around the corner.

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                        • Clayton_Wetter
                          Banned
                          • May 2007
                          • 16671

                          #27
                          Originally posted by a25rjr View Post
                          God help us, if they do!

                          You can count me out, if I don't hear the rumble of a V-8!
                          Getting an electric car to hook up and handle like the current cars would be impossible. I agree, I'm heading home if electric cars replace the gasoline engines. Safety issues would be enormous, also. It would be the end of racing as we know it on dirt tracks.

                          I suppose the announcers would really stand out then for sure, drowning out the quiet whirring electric motors. hahahahaha

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                          • MasterSbilt_Racer
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2007
                            • 14304

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Clayton_Wetter View Post
                            Getting an electric car to hook up and handle like the current cars would be impossible. I agree, I'm heading home if electric cars replace the gasoline engines. Safety issues would be enormous, also. It would be the end of racing as we know it on dirt tracks.

                            I suppose the announcers would really stand out then for sure, drowning out the quiet whirring electric motors. hahahahaha
                            I don't think it would be too hard to build a smooth variac for power supplied to the motor.
                            Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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                            • fastford
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 4059

                              #29
                              probably sound like the little slot car track down the street , just amplified......

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                              • mcarter815
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2016
                                • 1690

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Clayton_Wetter View Post
                                Getting an electric car to hook up and handle like the current cars would be impossible. I agree, I'm heading home if electric cars replace the gasoline engines. Safety issues would be enormous, also. It would be the end of racing as we know it on dirt tracks. I suppose the announcers would really stand out then for sure, drowning out the quiet whirring electric motors. hahahahaha
                                You can’t have an electric car without a computer brain box. It’s a given that that would mean traction control.

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