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  • Hovlane
    Member
    • Jul 2009
    • 89

    #1

    Does this week prove a point???

    That time trials and areo dependent cars aren't a big factor in single file train racing. Maybe poor track prep plays more of a role than people are willing to admit. A whole week of guys running high, low in the middle. 1st place cars in "Clean Air" being run down and passed. It seems East Bay found the solution to train racing. A little hard work goes a long way to putting on a good show. Great job East Bay Raceway Park!
  • klemmabyna
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 2055

    #2
    Track configuration and prep is the only thing that matters. I've said this in debates about formats/time trials/passing points/inverts. give these guys a well prepped track that allows for different racing grooves and they will put on a show regardless of where they start.

    my opinion: the number of tracks that can consistently do this is far too short. and the big two series continue to go places that they shouldn't.

    sounds like the racing at east bay has been terrific. congrats to those responsible.
    And the days that I keep my gratitude higher than my expectations, well, I have really good days - Ray Wylie Hubbard

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    • dlmfan
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 160

      #3
      and just imagine if there was no inverts

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      • MasterSbilt_Racer
        Senior Member
        • May 2007
        • 14304

        #4
        Originally posted by Hovlane View Post
        That time trials and areo dependent cars aren't a big factor in single file train racing. Maybe poor track prep plays more of a role than people are willing to admit. A whole week of guys running high, low in the middle. 1st place cars in "Clean Air" being run down and passed. It seems East Bay found the solution to train racing. A little hard work goes a long way to putting on a good show. Great job East Bay Raceway Park!
        No Eastbay is an outlier when prepped correctly because it is difficult to make the car steer well. Leader can't steer, his aero advantage is mitigated.
        Add the fact that tires last about 10 laps when you drive hard and people fall off.
        Last edited by MasterSbilt_Racer; 02-11-2018, 06:51 PM.
        Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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        • TUTY
          Senior Member
          • May 2012
          • 1243

          #5
          East Bay put on as good of a 6 day as anywhere. Great job on the track!

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          • CageFaraday
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2017
            • 685

            #6
            Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
            No Eastbay is an outlier when prepped correctly because it is difficult to make the car steer well. Leader can't steer, his aero advantage is mitigated.
            Add the fact that tires last about 10 laps when you drive hard and people fall off.
            ^^^^^ What MBR said ^^^^^^^^

            Eastbay is NOT a typical track.
            “Yeah, well, you know, that’s just, like, your opinion, man.” — The Dude

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            • Doc88D
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2012
              • 170

              #7
              Last nights race at Bubba raceway park proved that the folks at Eastbay are willing to, and know how to work a race track. The folks at Ocala, not so much... Its a shame that track owners/promoters in 2018 don't want to put in the work required to have a great race...
              Doc
              Facebook.com@DowdyRacing

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              • CageFaraday
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2017
                • 685

                #8
                Originally posted by Doc88D View Post
                Last nights race at Bubba raceway park proved that the folks at Eastbay are willing to, and know how to work a race track. The folks at Ocala, not so much... Its a shame that track owners/promoters in 2018 don't want to put in the work required to have a great race...
                Wow, one bad night and they must not care, the whole season is shot. Time to bash them on my social media... Better take a selifie with my lip pooch'd out. Must notta got what he wanted from Santa.
                “Yeah, well, you know, that’s just, like, your opinion, man.” — The Dude

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                • MasterSbilt_Racer
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 14304

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Doc88D View Post
                  Last nights race at Bubba raceway park proved that the folks at Eastbay are willing to, and know how to work a race track. The folks at Ocala, not so much... Its a shame that track owners/promoters in 2018 don't want to put in the work required to have a great race...
                  Did you miss the part where they reworked the track?
                  Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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                  • Kwd1253
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2014
                    • 2262

                    #10
                    If they didn’t have so many cautions and a red, it might not have locked down.

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                    • LMNED10
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2014
                      • 131

                      #11
                      Well I was at East Bay all week and I will say that the droop rule was not in effect and I did not see one car flip over. Been with Lucas this whole tour and yet to see a car flip because it was too high in the rear!

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                      • MI Dirt Fan
                        Banned
                        • May 2007
                        • 8806

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Doc88D View Post
                        Last nights race at Bubba raceway park proved that the folks at Eastbay are willing to, and know how to work a race track. The folks at Ocala, not so much... Its a shame that track owners/promoters in 2018 don't want to put in the work required to have a great race...
                        He has a radio talk show on am 820.

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                        • a25rjr
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2016
                          • 3774

                          #13
                          I think Lucas made a bad call by going single file.

                          I was there and it was shaping up to be a good finish until Lucas made that decision!

                          There is ZERO chance of a second groove developing if you go single file!
                          Turn LEFT, Vote RIGHT!

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                          • Bubstr
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 3734

                            #14
                            Originally posted by CageFaraday View Post
                            Wow, one bad night and they must not care, the whole season is shot. Time to bash them on my social media... Better take a selifie with my lip pooch'd out. Must notta got what he wanted from Santa.
                            Why the snarky comment? Are you the track prep guy at Ocala? That was his opinion. Before we hear all of your opinion, you should read the first sticky in the gossip forum. There is such a thing as disagreeing, with out being disagreeable. Thanks for making this a better place.

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                            • Doc88D
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2012
                              • 170

                              #15
                              Wow. I must have touched a nerve...
                              Doc
                              Facebook.com@DowdyRacing

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