Is It Time To Take Latemodel Racing to the Next Level

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  • Kromulous
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 3008

    #16
    Please dont water down DLM Racing by getting rid of the "Backward" "Hillybilly" people. These people are what i enjoy the most, their authentic, they love racing, and our Country. Last think i want to see at my local dirt tracks is a bunch of dam yuppies that think this is beneath them.

    Thats exactley where Nascar went wrong, years ago, they ran out all the characters, and no one wants to watch a bunch of pretty rich boys running in circles, and talking how thankful they are to all their sponsors, blah blah blah.

    Just say no...

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    • Pennsboro23
      Banned
      • Jul 2007
      • 5256

      #17
      Originally posted by Kromulous View Post
      Please dont water down DLM Racing by getting rid of the "Backward" "Hillybilly" people. These people are what i enjoy the most, their authentic, they love racing, and our Country. Last think i want to see at my local dirt tracks is a bunch of dam yuppies that think this is beneath them.

      Thats exactley where Nascar went wrong, years ago, they ran out all the characters, and no one wants to watch a bunch of pretty rich boys running in circles, and talking how thankful they are to all their sponsors, blah blah blah.
      Agreed, we don't need to head towards NASCAR's direction even though we have in a lot of ways. Some good, some not so good.

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      • Kwd1253
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2014
        • 2262

        #18
        Originally posted by TheJet-09 View Post
        I'm not sure why some think putting more money up front is what racing needs. So you'll need even more $ and resources to try and be competitive, and in turn will have even fewer cars than we do now?

        Look at your weekly car counts so far this year...

        And before you say this isn't about weekly racing, where do you think most if not all of those guys on tour nowadays came from? Or where will our drivers of tomorrow come from? Or if you can't get fans to come out for a weekly show (i.e. cheaper admission), how are you going to get them to ante up for these big purse races?
        Agree to this.. more tracks while close their doors not having the weekly shows. Super late model cost go up even more. Because everyone going have more money blow one parts. Then they ask for more sponsors because it cost so much.


        Originally posted by In The Gas View Post
        Is iit time to take late model racing to the next level with 1 series that pays a minimum $30 K to win a night and $3K to start a feature? I think we are ready for this if the big sponsor is there. There seems to be enough fans to support it and surely a TV affiliate to cover it.
        10-15k a lot of money for one night of racing. Put that extra 15-20k in the back of the field winnings. Heck big sponsors really want help put that money in to regional series that need more money. What Lucas has close to 60 races, that over 1 million extra in just first place winnings.

        Oh lot people complain about ticket prices now. That going double the prices of tickets. $60-80 for one night, pit pass $75-90 a person. I mean if like to pay nascar ticket prices. Oh I can see it now when a family of four pays $240 for one night and they have train race that night lol.
        Last edited by Kwd1253; 05-03-2018, 10:21 AM.

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        • fryefan
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 3547

          #19
          Originally posted by In The Gas View Post
          Is iit time to take late model racing to the next level with 1 series that pays a minimum $30 K to win a night and $3K to start a feature? I think we are ready for this if the big sponsor is there. There seems to be enough fans to support it and surely a TV affiliate to cover it.
          That would not be good for the sport.

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          • mskdorf
            Senior Member
            • May 2007
            • 840

            #20
            I would love to see a series that paid the mentioned payout. Maybe scheduled the way the NDRL did a while back. I don't think they would be sustainable doing 60 shows a year. 20 might be a good number and see how the TV deal goes from there.
            Scott Kleindorfer

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            • mskdorf
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 840

              #21
              I'm really looking forward to the Show Me live on Memorial Day weekend.
              Scott Kleindorfer

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              • CageFaraday
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2017
                • 685

                #22
                Power Corrupts, Absolutely Power Corrupts Absolutely.

                Originally posted by In The Gas View Post
                Is iit time to take late model racing to the next level with 1 series that pays a minimum $30 K to win a night and $3K to start a feature? I think we are ready for this if the big sponsor is there. There seems to be enough fans to support it and surely a TV affiliate to cover it.
                The LAST thing DLM racing needs is a singular group controlling things, its bad in government and its bad in motorsports. We need the NDRL to come back and shake things up. Monopolies are bad ideas every time. The answer is a resounding, NO.
                “Yeah, well, you know, that’s just, like, your opinion, man.” — The Dude

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                • brsteg
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 1590

                  #23
                  I don't know that the $30K to win and $3K to start deal makes it.

                  If I were either WoO or Lucas I would not sanction any 2 day show that didn't pay at minimum of $25,000 to win though.
                  "The Wise One"

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                  • NormP
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2011
                    • 2262

                    #24
                    Everyone says the problem is the purse being too top heavy, so I have a surefire way to bring back the best racing we've seen in thirty years.

                    A series where you have a 24 car field, with $3000 to start, but the purse money is spread all the way through the field with the winner getting a nice fat $3023 for taking the checkers!! I'm no accountant but even with the difficult math I think the payout would look something like this:

                    1. $3023
                    2. $3022
                    3. $3021
                    4. $3020
                    5. $3019
                    6. $3018
                    7. $3017
                    8. $3016
                    9. $3015
                    10. $3014
                    11. $3013
                    12. $3012
                    13. $3011
                    14. $3010
                    15. $3009
                    16. $3008
                    17. $3007
                    18. $3006
                    19. $3005
                    20. $3004
                    21. $3003
                    22. $3002
                    23. $3001
                    24. $3000
                    Last edited by NormP; 05-03-2018, 04:48 PM.

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                    • BTExpress
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2015
                      • 1208

                      #25
                      The WoO currently has 16 full time drivers and the LOLMS has 14.....so 30 drivers are following a national tour. If you have only had one series, no matter what it pays to win, I guarantee that number would be cut in half. Keep like it is in my opinion.
                      Last edited by BTExpress; 05-03-2018, 05:57 PM.

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                      • Clayton_Wetter
                        Banned
                        • May 2007
                        • 16671

                        #26
                        Originally posted by NormP View Post
                        Everyone says the problem is the purse being too top heavy, so I have a surefire way to bring back the best racing we've seen in thirty years.

                        A series where you have a 24 car field, with $3000 to start, but the purse money is spread all the way through the field with the winner getting a nice fat $3023 for taking the checkers!! I'm no accountant but even with the difficult math I think the payout would look something like this:

                        1. $3023
                        2. $3022
                        3. $3021
                        4. $3020
                        5. $3019
                        6. $3018
                        7. $3017
                        8. $3016
                        9. $3015
                        10. $3014
                        11. $3013
                        12. $3012
                        13. $3011
                        14. $3010
                        15. $3009
                        16. $3008
                        17. $3007
                        18. $3006
                        19. $3005
                        20. $3004
                        21. $3003
                        22. $3002
                        23. $3001
                        24. $3000
                        Sounds like a great formula for a train race and head out for the next train race!!! hahaha No mud, no dents, and no errors!!!

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                        • Kwd1253
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2014
                          • 2262

                          #27
                          Originally posted by mskdorf View Post
                          I would love to see a series that paid the mentioned payout. Maybe scheduled the way the NDRL did a while back. I don't think they would be sustainable doing 60 shows a year. 20 might be a good number and see how the TV deal goes from there.
                          You almost have that now between woo and lucas. You have about 7 events pay 20-25k, 11 events pay any where from 30-100k.

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                          • NormP
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2011
                            • 2262

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Clayton_Wetter View Post
                            Sounds like a great formula for a train race and head out for the next train race!!! hahaha No mud, no dents, and no errors!!!
                            Oh no, the bad racing isn't due to track prep or cost of a car, it's top heavy purses. Who wants to race for a chance to win 20K or 50K or 100k? That's just crazy. We need a series where everyone gets paid about the same no matter how he performs. Racers don't want to come out unless everyone is paid throughout the field. That's why racers are staying home!! Just ask the 4m experts.

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                            • Josh Bayko
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2007
                              • 8734

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Kwd1253 View Post
                              You almost have that now between woo and lucas. You have about 7 events pay 20-25k, 11 events pay any where from 30-100k.
                              There was some discussions about cosanctioning a couple of those races a few years back, but it never did happen, and now the circumstances that would have allowed it to happen are no more. It’s kind of a shame.
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                              • MC92
                                Member
                                • Aug 2017
                                • 34

                                #30
                                For a $10,000 WoO race the total purse for the field is $50,000. That’s just for supers, that’s not including support classes and paying your track staff and other expenses. And I had also heard the WoO sprint car purse is $100,000. Now that’s ridiculous.

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