Fans want passing, inversions

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  • Hoosier
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 1885

    #1

    Fans want passing, inversions

    We want inversions:
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    Brandon Sheppard led flag-to-flag in front of a packed house at Lavonia Speedway to claim his third World of Outlaws Craftsman Late Model Series feature win of the 2018 season.
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    Mike Marlar claimed his first World of Outlaws Craftsman® Late Model Series win of the 2018 season on Friday at Cherokee Speedway in front of a full house. The Winfield Warrior led all 50-laps
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    Madden and his No. 44 Barry Wright Race Cars House Car team swept the night by setting fast time, claiming his heat win, drawing the pole position and leading all 50 laps of a thrilling feature on Senoia’s “gray gumbo” 3/8-mile bullring.
  • WWilliams52
    Member
    • Jun 2016
    • 68

    #2
    Don't really know these tracks but have you ever considered that it might be the racetrack? Shouldn't punish a guy who is performing that night by sticking him behind a freight train.

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    • EvelB7
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2018
      • 908

      #3
      I am with you, more inversions--- Depends on whether you look at it as a sport or entertainment. The sporting side says heads up; I am sure their are a ton of people who truly like to see it this way. Myself, the cream will always rise to the top, so let's put on a show and reward those who do (passing cash). As for the racetrack, if it truly is the track being one grooved than lets change it-banking, dirt, water, fences...you wouldn't last long in the movie theater business with a projector that was broken, why do tracks think they can be successful with inferior surfaces?

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      • SVP
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2016
        • 1169

        #4
        quick note , Brandon Overton did pass for the lead over Marlar on the backstretch, but caution came out before the lap was complete to put him back in the lead and then Overton blew a right rear. But still I agree with you. Inversion , something.

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        • AHydro23
          Member
          • Jul 2017
          • 70

          #5
          I don't mind inversions. But it's worse when there is an inversion & there is still no passing. And that is on the track. It's happened a few times at our local track. The #4 qualifier starts on the pole & wins flag to flag.

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          • EvelB7
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2018
            • 908

            #6
            One other important piece to this---the cars themselves. Dirt Late Models are aero dependent and truthfully everyone has started to get great equipment. The game becomes more about who misses the setup than who does which equals less passing.

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            • dmr37
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 565

              #7
              Originally posted by EvelB7 View Post
              One other important piece to this---the cars themselves. Dirt Late Models are aero dependent and truthfully everyone has started to get great equipment. The game becomes more about who misses the setup than who does which equals less passing.
              So the race is won in the pits and with the checkbook. Maybe they should charge fans admission to the pits to watch them set their cars up.

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              • Illtsate32
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2015
                • 3079

                #8
                Nascar 2.0 get em up off the ground...cut down the spoiler and the fins on it about 3-4 inches that thing is absolutely massive...
                Last edited by Illtsate32; 05-09-2018, 09:41 AM.

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                • Illtsate32
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2015
                  • 3079

                  #9
                  The body from the rear clip back they got kicked out to the right almost at a 22° angle so the spoiler gets air to it..all these things are contributing to bad racing...and have I mentioned before how ugly and disproportionate the cars are getting...

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                  • Kromulous
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 3008

                    #10
                    Yes, its pretty simple to fix, not sure why they don't want too.

                    Cut the spoilers down, spec the RF. Spec the bodies in general, and make them more square. easy, easy stuff to do.

                    Another thing, not 1 race car driver in history, ever, likes inversions, redraws, any of that crap. There goal is to TQ, sit pole, and win, anything else your inviting chance into the mix. now that's just speaking to the Drivers point of view. I understand sacrifices have to be made for the sake of a good show, but criticizing a Driver for winning from the pole is unfair and off base. In my mind he did a perfect job.

                    Just say no...

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                    • Josh Bayko
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2007
                      • 8758

                      #11
                      The WoO has a redraw for starting positions. It's not like the entire program is straight up. The top cars are so close together in terms of speed that passing is a very tall order.
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                      • brsteg
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 1590

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Josh Bayko View Post
                        The WoO has a redraw for starting positions. It's not like the entire program is straight up. The top cars are so close together in terms of speed that passing is a very tall order.
                        Basically this; WoO redraws. If the track isn't conducive to passing the top several guys are close in speed and you won't see it. Tracks down south don't seem to be very racy generally speaking.
                        "The Wise One"

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                        • B_K
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2007
                          • 3236

                          #13
                          When there's maybe .1-.2 difference between the top 6-8 cars, inversions only punish the guy who was quickest to begin with.

                          Fix the cars. Take away all this aero stuff and find out who can actually drive these things the best.

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                          • brsteg
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 1590

                            #14
                            Originally posted by B_K View Post
                            When there's maybe .1-.2 difference between the top 6-8 cars, inversions only punish the guy who was quickest to begin with.

                            Fix the cars. Take away all this aero stuff and find out who can actually drive these things the best.
                            and prep the track...

                            If you invert, the invert # needs to be pretty large to get some of the not so great equipment up front for the guys with good stuff to pass.. the best through the traffic wins.
                            "The Wise One"

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                            • B_K
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2007
                              • 3236

                              #15
                              Brian Shirley - Fayette Co
                              Will Vaught - La Salle
                              Bobby Pierce - Macon
                              Bobby Pierce - Tri -City
                              Chris Simpson - Davenport
                              Jonathan Davenport -Hagerstown

                              All flag to flag in the last few weeks, none in the South. I'd challenge you to find five better tracks than Senoia.... anywhere.

                              There are several tracks that do suck in this region, but there's also several really good ones. The cars are too close and too aero dominant for inverts to really help out a show in most cases. Fix the cars.

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