Opinion: It's time for minimum age requirements in full size cars.

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  • Shiny Side Up 18
    Senior Member
    • May 2016
    • 12862

    #1

    Opinion: It's time for minimum age requirements in full size cars.

    During Saturday's Crate feature at Fairbury, a 13 year old driver (that shall remain nameless) spun out, and was sent to the rear. The driver is stopped on the track by a track official, who is at the front of the car. The driver then lets the car roll, bulldozing the official out of the way and nearly running him over. The driver is then black flagged, goes to the infield, then drives back onto the track as the feature restarts, causing another driver to collide with him and spin out. The driver then drives through the infield, nearly hitting several track workers, then finally leaves the track. Then his crew leaves the track on the 4-wheeler, flipping off the crowd. The driver was promptly banned from the track, probably for life. Then his mother comes into the stands and trys to start a fight with those of us that were upset by what we had just witnessed. I was furious, to say the least. This kind of crap is the last thing our sport needs, since these are the kinds of incidents that tend to find their way into the "mainstream" news (i.e. Stewart/Ward Jr.), and not the racing product itself. I know there are some good kids driving race cars out there, but as the saying goes, one bad apple spoils the bunch. I personally don't think anyone under 16 has any business driving a full size car. End rant.
    Last edited by Shiny Side Up 18; 05-27-2018, 03:44 AM.
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  • 427c.i.
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2007
    • 1218

    #2
    Why is UMP giving a license to children?

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    • MasterSbilt_Racer
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 14303

      #3
      Originally posted by 427c.i. View Post
      Why is UMP giving a license to children?
      UMP exists to collect $$$.
      Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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      • Gary
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2011
        • 1164

        #4
        It sounds like a "trash" or class issue to me. Some people will never grow up. I've seen a several adult drivers who act the same way over the years in all forms of racing making a$$es of themselves like the young kid you described. I think Billy Green at Florence Speedway was 12 when he started racing a Crate Late Model at Florence. He won the Crate Late Model track championship at 13 last year and runs a Super Late Model this year at 14 and picked up his first Super Late Model win already. He's very respectful of the other drivers, race officials and races very clean. Another young racer at Florence was Josh Rice in a Modified. They were both very good at a young age. Raising the age limit won't change someone who is a hot head or trash.
        Last edited by Gary; 08-28-2018, 08:30 PM.

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        • turnleftandgasit
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2007
          • 1182

          #5
          Peyton Walker earned his notoriety, don't protect the little idiot.

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          • Cardirt0
            Banned
            • May 2007
            • 5271

            #6
            You fix this by Banning him for life. Cant drive cant run someone over.

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            • turnleftandgasit
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2007
              • 1182

              #7
              UMP needs to ban him. Livingston county also needs to look at criminal charges.

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              • Crash 4
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2007
                • 671

                #8
                I was there and witnessed this travesty. If his parents were in any way sticking up for or condoning this child's actions, THEY are the problem.

                On a side note, if Fairbury decides to have the "Pro" Crate Late Model class again, I will not be attending. If this is the future of racing, dirt racing is probably coming to an end.

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                • Crash 4
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2007
                  • 671

                  #9
                  Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
                  UMP exists to collect $$$.
                  Agree 100%. UMP was a great thing for local tracks and racers when it was first conceived by Bob Memmer. Since it was sold out to a corporate entity it has become nothing but a money grab for certain corporations. Mostly a monopolistic tire selling mafia.

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                  • chupp n bloomer fan
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 11526

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Gary View Post
                    It sounds like a "trash" or class issue to me. Some people will never grow up. I've seen a several adult drivers who act the same way over the years in all forms of racing making a$$es of themselves like the young kid you described. I think Billy Green at Florence Speedway was 12 when he started racing a Crate Late Model at Florence. He won the Crate Late Model track championship at 13 last year and runs a Super Late Model this year at 14. He's very respectful of the other drivers, race officials and races very clean. Another young racer at Florence was Josh Rice in a Modified. They were both very good at a young age. Raising the age limit won't change someone who is a hot head or trash.
                    Correct. And hearing the Mom was raising hell defending him, well, ya know where he got his trashiness.

                    It’s parenting and all around decency. It crosses all boundaries.
                    Up in the air who my next “favorite” driver is. Really losing hope on Bloomer getting anywhere back to “normal”.

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                    • turnleftandgasit
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 1182

                      #11
                      If that was my son, he would be cleaning all of our racing equipment so it would be ready for the auction.

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                      • JJHunttheFront
                        Junior Member
                        • May 2018
                        • 3

                        #12
                        That’s terrible. It’s a difficult question/issue, but Tony Stewart talked about it a few weeks back and I felt the same way then as I do now. Dirt track racing depends on younger generations more than we think, so we should be careful telling potential racers ‘no.’ https://www.huntthefrontblog.com/sin...rivers-License

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                        • Shiny Side Up 18
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2016
                          • 12862

                          #13
                          I'm not saying to tell them "no". I'm saying kids don't belong in full size cars. There are plenty of other classes for kids to compete in until they are old enough to use good judgment. Some kids think it makes them look big and bad to pull crap like that because they saw some NASCAR driver lose their temper on TV, and can't be convinced otherwise because most 13 year olds think they have it all figured out and are totally infallible
                          Opinions are my own. Twitter.com/ShinySideUp18

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                          • TheJet-09
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2013
                            • 1616

                            #14
                            I've felt that the younger generation of today (my son included) think you can just hit the "reset button" when things go bad, getting to start all over again, fresh and ready to go. Life obviously doesn't work that way.

                            And maybe that's a byproduct of society, as we've "softened" discipline over the years leaving the younger generations oblivious to what it's like to suffer consequences for their actions.
                            Last edited by TheJet-09; 05-27-2018, 11:21 AM.

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                            • Krooser
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2012
                              • 3117

                              #15
                              The problem with these younsters is they mostly have zero respect for authority... been coddled too long. The rules dont apply to them... I had to wait until I was 18 to get in the pits and 21 to drive. I'm not saying that we should go back to that but....
                              Member of the Luxemburg Speedway Hall of Fame
                              Class of 2019

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