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  • CIRF
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2007
    • 8122

    #46
    Originally posted by chupp n bloomer fan View Post
    Yes, Kyle Larson does have bearing. That is someone you think is very good, so can he win in just about every other sprint car? And yes, Bloomer could win in other cars. And again, a seriously ridiculous argument. I mean, since when do we discredit a guy because he has a hand in all aspects of his car? And has chosen to understand them through and through, and knows what he wants. Also, he has won in a ton of different chassis.
    Larson can't win in every other sprint car. You know that, I know that and he knows that. That's a fact. But he can and has very often won in many different types of racecars on dirt, asphalt and an asphalt road course. And that also is a fact. Something ol' bloomy has never been able to do in spite of trying numerous times. Larson is also regarded as a more accomplished all around racecar driver than ol' bloomy, even given his young age. But that's a discussion for another time and topic.

    No discredit whatsoever and it's not an argument. Please believe that. I've stated numerous times that ol' bloomy holds the distinction of unquestionably being the most successful driver of the generic dirt late model era. That my friend is also a fact.

    Seriously ridiculous? Maybe. But is it unreasonable to believe that if a driver is excessively talented and successful enough to be considered the best of all time in any given genre of racecar that he could win races in another drivers' equipment given his setup is in place? If he's the undisputed best driver of all time he's surely capable of winning regardless. Maybe not as much, but clearly capable, nonetheless. Right? I really don't see that as a knock or a downgrade and wasn't meant to be. It's just conjecture and trying to keep things in perspective. Sorry I made ya' mad.
    Last edited by CIRF; 06-10-2018, 02:16 PM.

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    • Mindwalker
      Banned
      • Nov 2017
      • 2507

      #47
      Originally posted by NormP View Post
      I'm not a Bloomer fan, but I like to watch him win because it drives some people absolutely crazy. So here you go Bloomer haters, something to occupy your time:

      https://amzn.to/2JFHvzT
      These have already sold out. SS called me this morrning and told me. 😀

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      • Kwd1253
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2014
        • 2262

        #48
        Originally posted by golddirt View Post
        Now I know why I don't like bloomer, a lot of his fans
        That is very true why people don't like driver. I try not judge a driver because of their fans. I try judge them by their own character but I do that with people in general, ignore the special fans who go way over board and drive people way.

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        • cgrace
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2013
          • 903

          #49
          I thought the ZERO's win was amazing. However, I just don't get it. When you watch his crew at a major event they sort of seem like a cluster. Is it all a show? Is TEAM Zero cheating as much as they can. Did SAM tech the car AFTER THE RACE? I saw SAM leaving immediately after the race. Scott isn't nearly as smart as Rumley and several others. Tons of drivers were saying Scott didn't take the piss test. So why was he allowed to race. Plus what the hell, he was allowed to race on pain killers?

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          • t3r3e3
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2007
            • 1962

            #50
            Originally posted by CIRF View Post
            Thank you for expanding and clarifying the "G.O.A.T." thing as being specific to dirt late models. You'll get no dissension on that point from me or anyone else who has the least bit of background in DLM racing.

            Kyle Larson really has no bearing on this particular point. Although he has proven many times he can win in anything he drives from go-carts to the highest levels of prototype sports cars and stock cars. But, when a man is considered the best driver that's ever been, as is considered to be fact in reference to bloomy in most DLM racing circles, he probably could/should be able to win in a DLM other than his own. Or is that an unrealistic expectation? If it's unrealistic I'll gladly digress.
            Last time I checked he’s won in Rayburns, Mastersbuilts, Barry Wrights, I think Warriors, Bloomquists, and probably a few others.
            We'll miss ya Doc Watson...

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            • Mindwalker
              Banned
              • Nov 2017
              • 2507

              #51
              Originally posted by cgrace View Post
              I thought the ZERO's win was amazing. However, I just don't get it. When you watch his crew at a major event they sort of seem like a cluster. Is it all a show? Is TEAM Zero cheating as much as they can. Did SAM tech the car AFTER THE RACE? I saw SAM leaving immediately after the race. Scott isn't nearly as smart as Rumley and several others. Tons of drivers were saying Scott didn't take the piss test. So why was he allowed to race. Plus what the hell, he was allowed to race on pain killers?
              This takes the prize for the loudest crybaby award. Lol

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              • Centeroff
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2016
                • 1896

                #52
                Blackie, I think he is on to something and the secret is out. WRG has officially rigged the race for Scott. Even gave him those special perfectly matched tires Cole Trickle had on days of thunder. Keep this between us, Scott had 3 sprint car tires on the car and a top fuel dragster engine that wasn’t built by Durham. He also had 14 shocks on the car and the spoiler height was 9’3” tall. Scott wasn’t actually driving the car either. WRG installed a auto pilot chip from a 747 jet that was calibrated specifically for Eldora. Jesus, what’s next? Just when you thought you had heard it all!

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                • Bumpandrun
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 259

                  #53
                  Scott Bloomquist proved again last night that he is the best ever. To compete at the level he has for so long proved that he is the best. The guy is truly the man to beat on a regular basis. He makes dirt racing fun to watch. I know some races are one lane, but overall it’s better than pavement racing. To be whooping up on everyone at his age, and for how long he has done it, is amazing.

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                  • Planetzer0
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2018
                    • 332

                    #54
                    I guess winning the $100,000 modified race doesn't count as winning in a different car. I know he has a pavement win and a few seconds also but those don't count as winning in a different car either. lol. Saying Bloomquist can't win in any car besides his own is like saying Jimmie Johnson can't win without Chad Knaus. It's pretty irrelevant. I'm sure if Bloomquist was in the 49 he would win races just the same.

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                    • King1
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2012
                      • 354

                      #55
                      Originally posted by cgrace View Post
                      I thought the ZERO's win was amazing. However, I just don't get it. When you watch his crew at a major event they sort of seem like a cluster. Is it all a show? Is TEAM Zero cheating as much as they can. Did SAM tech the car AFTER THE RACE? I saw SAM leaving immediately after the race. Scott isn't nearly as smart as Rumley and several others. Tons of drivers were saying Scott didn't take the piss test. So why was he allowed to race. Plus what the hell, he was allowed to race on pain killers?
                      He was teched on tech day like everyone else so post race tech beyond tires and weight is irrelevant (although i would like to see a nascar style tech after)

                      Drug testing is exactly that, they test for drugs, what is the guy hiding kind of stuff. Bloomquist openly said he had a prescription for what he had taken.

                      So what is the big deal.

                      Kevin rumley isnt the smartest guy in DLM racing. Hes a smart guy that rode a wave on an exploitation of a grey area in the rules. They clearly didnt back it up the following season and was non existent in 2017 except for the latter part of the season.

                      Everybody is gonna have a bad season but i think its safe to say you cant keep Bloomquist down for more than a year. Another Kevin Rumley will come along and rock the boat every few years, but the common denominator will always be Bloomquist.

                      Until he retires, its always going to be the world against Bloomquist

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                      • hucktyson
                        Banned
                        • May 2007
                        • 1903

                        #56
                        I love this “ smartest man in any room he walks in “ title rumley gave himself.... there are people who turned nothing into multi billion dollar company’s , rumley is running a company “ lance landers Motorsports “ that’s hoping to bring in 500k off a 2 mil investment for a net loss of 1.5 mil lol lol. Smartest guy in his own head.

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                        • Barbecueboy
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 18116

                          #57
                          Sounds like the same type hyperbole of some no name guy saying he will qualify to an invert at eldoras biggest race of the year.........yep, sounds just like that.
                          Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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                          • SLIDING SIDEWAYS
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2013
                            • 7658

                            #58
                            Originally posted by a25rjr View Post
                            Agree 100%.....with that being said , Bloomer's the greatest dirt driver.....EVER!!!

                            I preface that with my 50 years being involved with motorsports. My dad was on a Cup team for many years, and many of those early drivers stayed at our house during Speedweeks. In the late 80s, I started working on a dlm, and eventually in the early 90's wound up on a slm. I witnessed Bloomer dominate during that time and actually despised him for it. But that has turned to immense respect for what he has done as a driver and for the sport, and yet 30 years later, he's still the......man to beat!

                            Call me a nuthugger if you will, but I recognize greatness and will take it as a compliment!

                            Yup nut hugger u are congrats on job well done!
                            THE REAL SLIDING SIDEWAYS!

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                            • a25rjr
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2016
                              • 3774

                              #59
                              Originally posted by SLIDING SIDEWAYS View Post
                              Yup nut hugger u are congrats on job well done!
                              I knew I would drag you out of your depression with that statement!

                              But dija enjoy that race last nite!
                              Turn LEFT, Vote RIGHT!

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                              • dirtdobber45
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2015
                                • 7226

                                #60
                                All I got to say is... The BEST there ever has been and will be. THE G.O.A.T!!! And if you like that I got two words for you ____ _. Fill in however you want
                                If I havent offended you please be patient Ill get to you as soon as I can...... and yes Im a Bloomquist fan...deal w it!!! WWG1WGA!!!

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