Dunn Benson Motorsports Statement

[Illtsate32]

This isn't the 80s anymore anymore. The tire preps that are out are not as hazardous as some think. The stuff I used you could apply with bare skin, and smelled really good. I realize I'm probably about to get into an argument I can't win, and I don't feel like trying to kick water up hill with it. So I'm just speaking with my past experiences.

As long as they patrolled the kind of preps that was used, there wouldn't be any harm done.

Man you summed it up there. You could have the most valid and logical points possible and people on here will still argue with you and tell you you're wrong lol...

[Cardirt0]

This is just one more thing killing Dirt Racing.

[Snake X3]

Man you summed it up there. You could have the most valid and logical points possible and people on here will still argue with you and tell you you're wrong lol...

Just figuring that out now, eh? LOL

[Mindwalker]

What don't appear hazardous now usually turns out to be later. Js...

[SLIDING SIDEWAYS]

What don't appear hazardous now usually turns out to be later. Js...

As in yourself!😁😁

[rageman]

How does anyone know that it isn't something they are preparing the track with and with the rubber compounds are coming up with the prep solution ?? Does anyone know what they use to put on the dirt to keep the dust and dirt down and so it rubbers up threw the corners????

[Barbecueboy]

How does anyone know that it isn't something they are preparing the track with and with the rubber compounds are coming up with the prep solution ?? Does anyone know what they use to put on the dirt to keep the dust and dirt down and so it rubbers up threw the corners????

All the 4 m experts have always said that there is no possible way contaminates can be picked up on the track or rolling though something in the pits, or picked up in shipping or in a stockroom wharehouse.....they have all said that every single time, thus the drivers are all cheaters......

Right guys??

Anybody get a look at the dod picture and see the tire trailer picture at Jacksonville and the two associates handing them out and the trailer they sit in and how they are stacked,sorted and delivered ???its just a great shot showing how they arrive at the track .......nothing at all could possibly be wrong with that set up for tire delivery could there??? That pic says it all as to the way tires are handled and distributed .



The following sounds you will hear will most likely be crickets.

Get rid of the rule folks.

[slmcrewchief99]

I have worked in the tire industry for almost 33 years. That still does not make me an expert but I do know a little of what I am talking about. With that said it is in my honest opinion that no they are not picking up contaminants during shipping or going through the pits or on the track. Every car in the pits would be illegal if it was something on the track because every car gets on the track. I will be more than glad to go in detail later. It's illegal to text and drive. Lol

[CageFaraday]

So I'm guessing the fuels, the brake cleaner,carb cleaners,exhaust,oils,glues, epoxies and lord knows what else is in the hauler and shops are all safe to be around and huff the fumes without the stated protective gear???

Give me a freakin break...

No doubt the chemicals used to treat the tires are dangerous ( just like all the above mentioned), but the days of folks saying it's the only reason tires can't be treated and anyone believing that its the only reason is pure insanity.

It all boils down to greed and control

I'll give you a good reason NOT to allow reckless off label use of chemicals on tires, the EPA. The EPA and the crazy Nut hugging Animal rights tree lovers, they HATE any and all forms of racing. To openly allow the use of chemicals to treat tires would bring them down on racing, hard. When I first started racing Karts back in the day, treating your tires with chemicals was what everybody did and it wasn't illegal. I finally wised up and just bought a broader selection of tire compounds and gave up any and all treating. The stuff is dangerous to use, even with precautions and who is to say some chuckle head backyard chemist doesn't mix up some stuff on his own and kill himself and a bunch of folks. Then a video of it goes viral, it becomes to the latest touch stone for fake news and DLM racing becomes the latest media pariah. This is what happens when you have limited compound rules, the speeds even out and people start looking for an advantage, tire soaking is cheap in the short run to do but the costs could be insurmountable long term. I'm not saying I think Bobby is guilty or not-guilty, I've made my feelings on WRG known in the past, but I think "open tire" compounds for the elites of the sport makes more sense than lab tests, sniffers and chasing backyard chemists around the pits. This is the next level, let the deep pocket players buy the tires they want to.

[a25rjr]

I'll give you a good reason NOT to allow reckless off label use of chemicals on tires, the EPA. The EPA and the crazy Nut hugging Animal rights tree lovers, they HATE any and all forms of racing. To openly allow the use of chemicals to treat tires would bring them down on racing, hard. When I first started racing Karts back in the day, treating your tires with chemicals was what everybody did and it wasn't illegal. I finally wised up and just bought a broader selection of tire compounds and gave up any and all treating. The stuff is dangerous to use, even with precautions and who is to say some chuckle head backyard chemist doesn't mix up some stuff on his own and kill himself and a bunch of folks. Then a video of it goes viral, it becomes to the latest touch stone for fake news and DLM racing becomes the latest media pariah. This is what happens when you have limited compound rules, the speeds even out and people start looking for an advantage, tire soaking is cheap in the short run to do but the costs could be insurmountable long term. I'm not saying I think Bobby is guilty or not-guilty, I've made my feelings on WRG known in the past, but I think "open tire" compounds for the elites of the sport makes more sense than lab tests, sniffers and chasing backyard chemists around the pits. This is the next level, let the deep pocket players buy the tires they want to.

Hey hey hey......ima backWOODS chemist! I got some home brew that will turn a Hoosier into black soup!

[chupp n bloomer fan]

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If you wanna huff the stuff BBQ, go right ahead. But to answer your question, no they are not. Read the labels on that stuff.

While I agree on tires it’s mostly Hoosier probably, none of that treatment stuff is good for ya either

Most preps ingredients are paint related.

There's a lot of people that use these products every day in various occupations, and few suffer any serious consequenses.


So the argument is, and yes I agree, they are mostly the same chemicals in paint products, that those people use the stuff everyday and are perfectly fine. You’re correct, those using paint booths, and proper PPE are probably fine. Those saying screw it, and just going with it, stand a darn good chance of not. Two wrongs doesn’t make a right, doesn’t make one thing ok, because some painter does it.

If I don’t have a full face respirator and good rubber gloves, I’m not touching the crap. My Dad used the stuff in the late 70’s-early 80’s, I’ll pass.

[chupp n bloomer fan]

Painters aren’t usually walking health nuts anyway. They look like masons, bricklayers.

[Barbecueboy]

I totally agree with the last 4 posts, doesn't take away from the fact that we all know that's not the primary reason the series and tire company doesn't want them to do it.........the whole , " it's for your own good" argument is weak as ketchup soup.

It's for somebody's good, and it isn't the racers.

[Barbecueboy]

And c and b.......health nuts, in racing??

Sure there are a few, but have you looks around the pits lately,lol?

[Barbecueboy]

I'll give you a good reason NOT to allow reckless off label use of chemicals on tires, the EPA. The EPA and the crazy Nut hugging Animal rights tree lovers, they HATE any and all forms of racing. To openly allow the use of chemicals to treat tires would bring them down on racing, hard. When I first started racing Karts back in the day, treating your tires with chemicals was what everybody did and it wasn't illegal. I finally wised up and just bought a broader selection of tire compounds and gave up any and all treating. The stuff is dangerous to use, even with precautions and who is to say some chuckle head backyard chemist doesn't mix up some stuff on his own and kill himself and a bunch of folks. Then a video of it goes viral, it becomes to the latest touch stone for fake news and DLM racing becomes the latest media pariah. This is what happens when you have limited compound rules, the speeds even out and people start looking for an advantage, tire soaking is cheap in the short run to do but the costs could be insurmountable long term. I'm not saying I think Bobby is guilty or not-guilty, I've made my feelings on WRG known in the past, but I think "open tire" compounds for the elites of the sport makes more sense than lab tests, sniffers and chasing backyard chemists around the pits. This is the next level, let the deep pocket players buy the tires they want to.

The epa is more corrupt and on the take from lobby and special interest than almost any governmental agency out there.......

There are a wide array of answers that can do away with the tire debacle and all of them don't revolve around prep or testing.......testing is the easy way out and takes virtually no thought and falls under the " hey , that's the way we always done it" mentality.

Open non monopolistic competition between the tire companies, open compounds, series issued tires just to name a few......nobody wants to address that because it's hard.