Timothy Culp acuuses Moyer of cheating

[Highside Hustler25]

To me quitting is protesting. Plenty of good racers have quit recently. Because any time you try to bring up a legitimate issue, you're just "whining like a little girl". This is something I hate about the racing community, they have this macho complex of either tough up or shut up. Fine lots of people are shutting up and leaving. Have fun playing in the sandbox alone!

Drop the mic !!!

[chupp n bloomer fan]

Moyer rams other drivers out of his way and whines when he doesn't get his way. Those of you who love to slob his knob can sugarcoat it any way you want.

If you think a guy with as many wins as him has never cheated, you don't even know which end of the race car is the front.

As MastersBilt Racer said, you all are blindly loyal. But at least it gives us something at which to laugh.

You both nailed it. You and MR. Nothing wrong with being a fan of someone, but having on blinders and being in denial is another.

[chupp n bloomer fan]

The Overton incident being on Overton, Swindellitis, or last night, it wasn’t given to us, we earned it. Umm well, Babb’s flat kinda let ya walk into that one.

[t3r3e3]

One more thing as a very pleased MOYER fan following his 831 wins, with no disqualifications you obviously don't attend many races as all racing sanctions will not allow you to run with illegal parts on it. The only person that has stated any illegal parts on Moyers car was Timothy Culp because I don't think Timothy Culp knows the difference between a spring and a shock! Would love to discuss this more tonight at the race over a beer while we watch Mr. Smooth do his thing!

It’s laughable at best that you think Culp doesn’t know what he’s talking about. The guy has been racing lates for 6 or 7 years now at least, much of tha chasing regional tours and some national. In other words, Timothy’s a lot more familiar with setups and components than you (a keyboard jockey and fan). Just because he called out your favorite driver doesn’t mean it ain’t true. Everyone is pushing the envelope. Some are sneakier than others.

[CageFaraday]

So if Timothy Culp says it, that makes it true? If it was so obvious how comes nobody took a pic of it? Crying on FB is teenage girl BS, lodge a formal protest. If the official won't take you seriously, don't race with them. If enough racers refuse to follow the tour then they'll be forced to do something, but whining on social media is lame. A man would take a stand if he was 100% sure of something being wrong. Racing anyway says you don't mind that much about it to me.

[cgrace]

What makes it true is the drivers and crew members who were at Haubstadt and watched UMP take the photos of said part. UMP had him remove it before next race. Drivers race that's what they do, UMP is the only show in Illinois. Sam knows it. The drivers know it. Plenty of drivers had said something to Sam. Unfortunately like someone else said, drivers get tired of being screwed, tired of complaining and quit.

[t3r3e3]

What makes it true is the drivers and crew members who were at Haubstadt and watched UMP take the photos of said part. UMP had him remove it before next race. Drivers race that's what they do, UMP is the only show in Illinois. Sam knows it. The drivers know it. Plenty of drivers had said something to Sam. Unfortunately like someone else said, drivers get tired of being screwed, tired of complaining and quit.

Yep. Sam ain’t gonna publicly call out one of his biggest draws. He has been known to play Emperor with the lesser names though. Sam definitely ain’t no Bob Memmer.

[CageFaraday]

What makes it true is the drivers and crew members who were at Haubstadt and watched UMP take the photos of said part. UMP had him remove it before next race. Drivers race that's what they do, UMP is the only show in Illinois. Sam knows it. The drivers know it. Plenty of drivers had said something to Sam. Unfortunately like someone else said, drivers get tired of being screwed, tired of complaining and quit.

So they investigated the protest, didn't knee jerk react, but did have him remove the part the next race... What is the issue that needed an FB tantrum and 6 pages on 4m? Lastly, you can protest without quitting all together and the argument that you have to race with them is bunk. If enough racers stood together in protest, like sitting out an event or two they'd make some changes. I'm avidly opposed to any and all cheating, but you gotta stand your ground, not make excuses and whine on FB.

[hucktyson]

The fella just doesn’t seem to understand his current place in the pecking order. If he starts consistently winning they will care what he has to say

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

You pay more for junk tires. Pay a membership fee for the rules to be in place and enforced. F pecking order.

[chupp n bloomer fan]

So they investigated the protest, didn't knee jerk react, but did have him remove the part the next race... What is the issue that needed an FB tantrum and 6 pages on 4m? Lastly, you can protest without quitting all together and the argument that you have to race with them is bunk. If enough racers stood together in protest, like sitting out an event or two they'd make some changes. I'm avidly opposed to any and all cheating, but you gotta stand your ground, not make excuses and whine on FB.

You really think complaining about Moyer at a UMP event is going to get you somewhere? He isn’t being a girl, he is showing everyone the BS that goes on. And of course, Bloomer, and Moyer, at different events, are going to be treated with kid gloves I’d call it. Life ain’t fair. But there’s nothing wrong with calling people out. I’m sure he did bring it to UMP’s attention, and got blew off. So he went to social media, to let others know. Long as he went to the people in person first, nothing wrong with what he did.

[chupp n bloomer fan]

You pay more for junk tires. Pay a membership fee for the rules to be in place and enforced. F pecking order.

Exactly. If I’m paying their BS fees, then better treat us all the same. Though you and I both know that ain’t the case. Whether it’s Moyer, Bloomer, Bobby, etc, they are not treated the same as Culp, Unzicker, Weaver etc.

[Clayton_Wetter]

Tim Culp my opinion is you need to spend more time working on your race car instead of playing with the computer and MAYBE??? you might be able to out run Moyer before he retires! He has more wins than you will probably ever get laps leading. For all you Moyer haters, Billy is probably one of the most respected drivers in the pits and stands. Next time you are at a race just take note on the cheers for Moyer and the shirts in the grandstand. Just saying, truth hurts!

The truth hurts? Well it's time for you to start feeling the pain!!! hahahahahaaa

[Clayton_Wetter]

You were born yesterday or blindly loyal.

Both!!!...

[a25rjr]

Both!!!...

You know how obsessive those Moyer fans can be!