Is the Prairie Dirt Classic a Crown Jewel

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  • Illtsate32
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2015
    • 3079

    #61
    Get off Planetzero and come back to Earth guy...

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    • Planetzer0
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2018
      • 332

      #62
      Originally posted by Illtsate32 View Post
      Get off Planetzero and come back to Earth guy...
      Says the guy who claims the DTWC isnt a crown jewel event. LOL. You live in Illinois, whats there to do there?

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      • Illtsate32
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2015
        • 3079

        #63
        Originally posted by Planetzer0 View Post
        Says the guy who claims the DTWC isnt a crown jewel event. LOL. You live in Illinois, whats there to do there?
        I never said the DTWC wasnt a crown jewel. You said that I said that. Now the second part of your statement, you kinda got me there lol, besides being the best state to watch dlm racing not much. Best tracks, best drivers...
        Last edited by Illtsate32; 07-11-2018, 12:20 PM.

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        • Planetzer0
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2018
          • 332

          #64
          Well considering 3 of the top 5 all time is from Tennessee, I would have to disagree man. Im from Iowa so theres not alot to do here either. LOL

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          • FANSFund
            Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 76

            #65
            Hands down... talk with the drivers and they easily define with four criteria:

            1.) History - drivers will talk about being on next years t-shirt with a the list of HOF drivers that are listed on the back of the event t-shirt
            2.) Trophy - you will hear drivers talk about "I want the globe (Eldora or DTWC), Eagle (USA Nationals), trophy with the flags (US and Confederate for North/South) etc" and the prestige that goes with having that trophy in your trophy case.
            3.) Payout - long before some of the newer events, the crown jewels have a long history of payouts of $40K, $50K, etc. as well as high "to-start" purse. Those promoters took a huge gamble by paying out those purses long ago.
            4.) Venue - you hear drivers talk about big races won at the venue by some of dirt racings biggest names and the biggest events.

            Bottom line... you combine the four above and you have history as the main theme of events that were won by the sports biggest names (regional, national and sometimes local).

            Fans do not define Crown Jewels - drivers define these races by ones that they most want to win (reasons above) on a national level. Also, I don't think there is one Crown Jewel - what famous crown in history has ever had one jewel? The idea around Crown Jewels is several prestigious races and right now we have less than ten.

            BTW... all big races need to come up with a unique trophy. FALS, I-80, Knoxville and others need to come up with an iconic trophy. A trophy from the World 100, USA Nationals, North/South 100... even the Cotton Pickin and Toilet Bowl... these are trophy's you don't have to look at the plate to know what trophy the event represents. Crown Jewels should all have an iconic trophy.

            Rich Olson
            Minneapolis, MN

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            • ptown
              Banned
              • Jan 2011
              • 1906

              #66
              Originally posted by FANSFund View Post
              Hands down... talk with the drivers and they easily define with four criteria:

              1.) History - drivers will talk about being on next years t-shirt with a the list of HOF drivers that are listed on the back of the event t-shirt
              2.) Trophy - you will hear drivers talk about "I want the globe (Eldora or DTWC), Eagle (USA Nationals), trophy with the flags (US and Confederate for North/South) etc" and the prestige that goes with having that trophy in your trophy case.
              3.) Payout - long before some of the newer events, the crown jewels have a long history of payouts of $40K, $50K, etc. as well as high "to-start" purse. Those promoters took a huge gamble by paying out those purses long ago.
              4.) Venue - you hear drivers talk about big races won at the venue by some of dirt racings biggest names and the biggest events.

              Bottom line... you combine the four above and you have history as the main theme of events that were won by the sports biggest names (regional, national and sometimes local).

              Fans do not define Crown Jewels - drivers define these races by ones that they most want to win (reasons above) on a national level. Also, I don't think there is one Crown Jewel - what famous crown in history has ever had one jewel? The idea around Crown Jewels is several prestigious races and right now we have less than ten.

              BTW... all big races need to come up with a unique trophy. FALS, I-80, Knoxville and others need to come up with an iconic trophy. A trophy from the World 100, USA Nationals, North/South 100... even the Cotton Pickin and Toilet Bowl... these are trophy's you don't have to look at the plate to know what trophy the event represents. Crown Jewels should all have an iconic trophy.

              Rich Olson
              Minneapolis, MN
              This guy knows what he’s talking about.

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              • bleedsbluer2
                Senior Member
                • May 2011
                • 684

                #67
                Pdc,hillbilly100,firecracker100,jackson100,silver dollar nationals,woo finals can be considered crown jewel and should be

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                • racincowboy02
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 1056

                  #68
                  I disagree with the woo finals that is a points race to end their season

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                  • golddirt
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 3774

                    #69
                    Who really cares?

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                    • Cardirt0
                      Banned
                      • May 2007
                      • 5271

                      #70
                      Originally posted by golddirt View Post
                      Who really cares?
                      Its all in the Mind, and mine is not working to good no more. So right you are.

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                      • NormP
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 2262

                        #71
                        Originally posted by golddirt View Post
                        Who really cares?
                        The idiots care. Other than that, no one cares. Everyone has their idea of what a crown jewel is and no one is more right than anyone else.

                        "So let's leave it alone 'cause we can't see eye to eye
                        There ain't no good guy, there ain't no bad guy
                        There's only you and me and we just disagree"

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                        • brsteg
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2007
                          • 1590

                          #72
                          History, money, and unique format make a crown jewel to me.

                          Not enough history, and a little light on cash for PDC to be in the crown jewel list. Not every big race qualifies as crown jewel. The PDC is a pretty big race.

                          I seem to be one of the few that still really see the Hillbilly as a crown jewel. But being the oldest and richest one day show keeps it there for me.
                          "The Wise One"

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                          • MI Dirt Fan
                            Banned
                            • May 2007
                            • 8806

                            #73
                            Originally posted by racincowboy02 View Post
                            I disagree with the woo finals that is a points race to end their season
                            It's not even one big paying event. It's two separate ones that pay $10-12k each.

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                            • Pennsboro23
                              Banned
                              • Jul 2007
                              • 5256

                              #74
                              Originally posted by brsteg View Post
                              History, money, and unique format make a crown jewel to me.

                              Not enough history, and a little light on cash for PDC to be in the crown jewel list. Not every big race qualifies as crown jewel. The PDC is a pretty big race.

                              I seem to be one of the few that still really see the Hillbilly as a crown jewel. But being the oldest and richest one day show keeps it there for me.
                              I'm with you on the Hillbilly.

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                              • golddirt
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2007
                                • 3774

                                #75
                                Hell I've saw some 30 lap features that cant compare to some crown jewel races. I just ant to see a good race as I don't care what its called

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