Originally posted by quickbiscuit
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Scott Bloomquist has agreed to comply with World Racing Group's requirements
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Classes will be held by a licensed drug abuse counselor, and there will be an NA/AA meeting held at least once during the class...and he WILL say, my name is Scott and Im an addict, or recovering addict. If he dont they will add more classes and say he is in denial, kind of like you are in your comment trying to downplay the situation lol...Last edited by Illtsate32; 07-17-2018, 06:30 PM.
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Well. I get it, you don’t see it as a disease, but it is. Do I agree the people have a weak will, are not smart, and cannot figure out they need to change who they associate with, yes.Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Postksmitty, Disease my butt! Cooking your brain with drugs, to make it want drugs, is no disease. Is it a disease if I blow my hand off with fireworks? It is not. If I fry my retina while welding, do I have glaucoma? No. Calling it a disease is no different than giving everyone a trophy. Calling it a disease is a way to force health insurance to cover methodone and rehab.
I’m speaking as someone who has done every drug pretty much, but heroin, crack, and oxy. And has had multiple family members in and out of rehab, or are flaming 50 year old drunks.
At first, no it is not a disease, it is a choice. Like the examples you gave. But then, before these people know it, I quit before this point, priorities, they become addicted. And it is a disease and they cannot get off of it. Sad, stupid, makes you angry, sure. But having sampled most drugs, I can understand how it becomes an addiction/disease.
I guess some will never agree it becomes a disease, but seeing it first hand, I would have to say it progresses into a disease. Some, have the will to just quit, some, it takes rehab/jail/tragedy, others, never going to change.Up in the air who my next “favorite†driver is. Really losing hope on Bloomer getting anywhere back to “normalâ€.
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We are scheduling now, classes are filling up quick. I hear, you spot the scheduler, me, an eight ball, you can be ahead of everyone else.Originally posted by MILLER7FAN View PostWTF is this thread? I thought this was a DLM forum, but now I feel like i may need to go to a meeting
We will get you all straightened out and make sure you leave chanting Bloomer our God, Savior, and Messiah.
Up in the air who my next “favorite†driver is. Really losing hope on Bloomer getting anywhere back to “normalâ€.
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Chup,
I know it is called a disease. There are also like 20 genders now. Doesn't make it so. Lol. I don't see how one form of self mutilation is a disease, but no others are. I get what you are saying, but the concept is laughable to me. It was done long ago to game insurance.Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing
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Unfortunately , health insurance itself is the disease.Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Postksmitty, Disease my butt! Cooking your brain with drugs, to make it want drugs, is no disease. Is it a disease if I blow my hand off with fireworks? It is not. If I fry my retina while welding, do I have glaucoma? No. Calling it a disease is no different than giving everyone a trophy. Calling it a disease is a way to force health insurance to cover methodone and rehab.
its horribly corrupt , drives the cost of good medicine through the roof and allows the Drs and surgeons to abuse the system ( the insurance and health care system).
Ever wonder why there isn't a posted rate schedule for services rendered? Ever see one?
Other than your doctor or hospital , do you ever in your life agree for any service performed or product bought without knowing the price first?......it's a very diseased system.Where is the move over flag when you need it?????
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https://youtu.be/9q5pl0Nf1UkScotts always had a drug problem. He's had an addiction going on 50 years. Jd and Pierce have tried it occasionally, but can't consume enough to stay up with Scott. But its finally caught up with Bloomer and now he must confess his ongoing and addictive appetite for .......SPEEDIn Scott's case, it's late model dirt cars. But, I bet given the chance, he wouldn't hesitate to strap into a Nitro Funny car. He's the John Force of dirt!When I get high, I get high on speed. Top fuel funny car's the drug for me. My heart! My heart! Kick start my heart!
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chupp n bloomer fan
So a disease and addiction are the same thing? I know where you coming from but I look at it this way.
A person can choose to stop drinking or drugs, but someone with cancer just can't stop taking cancer. Not saying it's easy, but you can physically stop taking that stuff. Where with a disease you can't just stop doing something to get rid of most of the effects of the disease.
Also not saying a addiction doesn't require medical help.Last edited by billetbirdcage; 07-17-2018, 07:48 PM.
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BBQ, ive heard stories about chop shop drug rehabs that will recruit people with good health benifits knock your insurance for 30-40k give you 5-10k kickback for doing it and referring others...aint that crazy? It happens...
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I'm kind of on the fence as to what it should be labeled.......but labeled or not most human beings want to see other human beings doing ok and not suffering.Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View PostIts a tragedy. Its not a disease. Your opinion of me is yours and not shared by many.
As many study's have shown........many many many addicts got hooked on the bad stuff because they could no longer get the good stuff from the doctors.
I'm not condoning any of it, I would love to think I'm strong willed enough to say I would never ever get hooked on a drug, and so far have been lucky enough and stubborn enough to not be owned by anyone or anything.( the 80s were a little shaky for me)
I'm of the opinion that Addiction is a disease just like mental illness is a disease, just like anorexia is a disease, just like cancer is a disease and so on.........the patient always has to do his part with the process though.
Most addicts just don't really want to get better though because the place they feel the safest and best at happens when they are high.Where is the move over flag when you need it?????
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Addiction is a temporary mental illness, it is a disease of the mind, it does dilapidate ur health and quality of life, just like a cancer or other disease. Is it self inflicted, yes, but so is lung cancer from smoking and cirrhosis from drinking, but nobody calls them a pos and degrades them when they need help...Originally posted by billetbirdcage View Postchupp n bloomer fan
So a disease and addiction are the same thing? I know where you coming from but I look at it this way.
A person can choose to stop drinking or drugs, but someone with cancer just can't stop taking cancer. Not saying it's easy, but you can physically stop taking that stuff. Where with a disease you can't just stop doing something to get rid of most of the effects of the disease.
Also not saying a addiction doesn't require medical help.
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Obesity? Do you think it's a disease or like your scenario above just think it's self inflicted by a weak minded individual.Originally posted by NormP View PostSo what germ or bacteria infects you and causes you to take that first bump of coke? How do I catch this disease? Is it contagious? How do I protect myself from contracting this "disease?"
And before you throw the "loved one" sob story at me, let me tell you a little story--my first cousin lived with me when I got out of school, he was as clean as a whistle when he moved in.
He started using drugs because he had a weak will and was not strong enough to handle peer pressure from the crowd he ran with at his new job, not because he caught a "disease." No family history of drug or even alcohol abuse, no genetics, nothing to make him a drug addict. I moved out when I found out he was using. Before it was all said and done he had lost 2-3 jobs and ended up with a few felony convictions from committing burglaries to support his habit. Now Doctor Jeffrey, diagnose this "disease" for me and his parents.
Alcoholism?? A disease or just another self inflicted effect of a weak minded individual??
Maybe disease is the wrong word, but it's certainly an illness ( maybe more mental) where a certain person needs help professionally.
The diseases you get from being an alcoholic, obese, anorexic etcetera are real......it's all cause and effect.Where is the move over flag when you need it?????
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There are many levels of addiction.......it's not a one size fits all coat.Originally posted by Mindwalker View PostThats sad bbq.... I really feel for those who have a drug addiction.
It's sad to watch, especially if it's someone you are close too.Where is the move over flag when you need it?????
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