Average $$$ per Driver running WOO

[Josh Bayko]

Lucas numbers with what I count as 37 races entered.
Superman $210,600 / $5691 per race
Bloomturd $187,725 / $5073 per race
Kid Rocket $134,025 / $3622 per race
EPJ $127,925 / $3457 per race
T Mac $113,475 / $3066 per race
Pierce $121,050 / $3271 per race
Owens $100,050 / $2704 per race
Real Deal $101,850 / $2752 per race
New Deal $121,325 / $3279 per race
Lanigan $68,400 / $1848 per race
Satterlee $78,375 / $2118 per race
Ziegler $60,550 / $1636 per race
Erb JR. $49,700 / $1343 per race
Bronson $72,175 / $1950 per race
LUCAS OIL SERIES

Crazy how Sheppard is still averaging 2k more than anybody else on both tours, despite all those high paying Lucas races.

[MI Dirt Fan]

I don't think Lucas has quite hit enough high paying shows yet to move the numbers enough in that series. The highest paying WoO event on thier schedule he ended up winning so that helps. I bet if you look in about a month or so the number will be less and by the end of the season he won't average more.

[MI Dirt Fan]

Look at the B.K racing NASCAR team. Over $44 million in debt.

[Josh Bayko]

I don't think Lucas has quite hit enough high paying shows yet to move the numbers enough in that series. The highest paying WoO event on thier schedule he ended up winning so that helps. I bet if you look in about a month or so the number will be less and by the end of the season he won't average more.

It's not so much that's he won the USA Nats that his number is that much higher, it's that he's won more races overall than anybody else on either tour. Imagine how it would be if they don't have those motors go pop early this season.

[TUTY]

One of the talked about things is that WOO travels more miles than Lucas ? Is that really true anymore as Lucas Oil has more races also?

[Josh Bayko]

One of the talked about things is that WOO travels more miles than Lucas ? Is that really true anymore as Lucas Oil has more races also?

It depends largely on where the team is located, but IIRC, somebody did the math early this season, and the Lucas schedule was more miles than the WoO schedule this year.

[Zonks32x]

Huck, that makes sense. Be interesting to see exactly how much $$$ in freebies & discounts rocket1, Bloomer, etc. receive each year.

I know it's probably impossible to answer, but what do you think the ballpark markup ends up being for the regional & local teams as a result of the free stuff the big boys receive. 10%, 20%, higher??

[racingfan99]

How does Arnie Ranta do it with Hhs B1 team, there is no one else on the car but him. Man, that guy must love super DLM racing or does he think Brent Larson has a future in the sport? General Mills nor General Motors would take on what he does alone!!

[Crossbones]

These threads are always funny with the same few posters showing up in them with BIG eyes when showing $ numbers.lol

I remember Chub Frank 7/8 years ago saying it cost $2,500 per event, 60 events = $150,000 per year.

I would guess the lower budget "national" teams budget is around $150,000 per year and the higher budget teams around $250,000. Theres no way any of these touring teams are spending $500,000+ per year. Maybe the WoO sprint car teams hit that mark but not the late models.

I wouldn't even pay much attention to some of the drivers on this stuff, people tend to have big eyes to make something sound bigger than it really is. Bloomquist in 2014 threw around the $1,000,000 number.lol

[MI Dirt Fan]

So you think a "higher" budget team isn't spending more than $250k in a season? lol

Who fits in the "lower" budget national team?

[Josh Bayko]

These threads are always funny with the same few posters showing up in them with BIG eyes when showing $ numbers.lol

I remember Chub Frank 7/8 years ago saying it cost $2,500 per event, 60 events = $150,000 per year.

I would guess the lower budget "national" teams budget is around $150,000 per year and the higher budget teams around $250,000. Theres no way any of these touring teams are spending $500,000+ per year. Maybe the WoO sprint car teams hit that mark but not the late models.

I wouldn't even pay much attention to some of the drivers on this stuff, people tend to have big eyes to make something sound bigger than it really is. Bloomquist in 2014 threw around the $1,000,000 number.lol

If Chub was saying 150k 8 years ago, they’re spending double that now. The cars themselves are double what they cost then, and all of the other costs associated with touring have also gone up exponentially.

[Illtsate32]

Make that $8706 a race for EPJ...Pierce around $4200 per race....IF Bobby could of pulled off the win at Manfield and won the Silver Dollar Nationals like he should of hed be up around $10000 a race, so the question and debate remains...if these guys make north of $250,000-$300,000 are they ending up in the black?? Another question maybe someones answered it before, does every penny go to the driver or is there a contract signed that splits up the purse money with the teams and hired drivers?

[Kwd1253]

So you think a "higher" budget team isn't spending more than $250k in a season? lol

Who fits in the "lower" budget national team?

T-MAC lol.. one car, dually, box trailer, no extra front clip lol. Surprised if he has 2 motors and going around asking all lucas regular for their used racing tires lol

[ImCryn2]

Imagine what the guys who switch chassis brands 2 or 3 times a year spend. They're usually not the ones winning alot of money either. crazy

[grt74]

you are not going to make money in racing with out help, just the truth, truth
ive talked to a top sponsor (he owned it all and footed the whole bill) for someone who is still racing and is very competitive, min 250 if luck went your way, 250-400 if they killed a couple cars or engines, but thats also paying 2 full time guys for help
lets not forget all the hours that go into a deal like this
I've heard of guys testing for 1000 laps or in a 2 day deal, hell thats a 15000 dollar test session easy