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  • riddle28
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2010
    • 1084

    #31
    @xray

    i would put all of racing under that umbrella not just DLM, privateer moto guys, small nascar teams, the list goes on that can compete with the "pros" when the situation arises

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    • fastford
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2008
      • 4059

      #32
      ASA tried this /\ /\ several years back , and they died quicker than if they would have just left the rules alone , they even made everyone use the same chevy engine , which did it for me . There has to be another way than just forming another spec or crate class....JMO.....I was referring to DGI,s post

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      • DGI
        Senior Member
        • May 2007
        • 113

        #33
        I'm not saying crate or spec. Just maybe an 18 degree rule or even 13 degree rule. That alone would cut the motor cost in half compared to what the top guys are using. And the fans in the stands would be non the wiser when watching the race.

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        • play4kps
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2009
          • 594

          #34
          If you want to fix dirt late model racing in a fast manner get the shock companies out of the game, and bring in a claimer rule!

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          • Matt49
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2007
            • 3123

            #35
            Originally posted by play4kps View Post
            If you want to fix dirt late model racing in a fast manner get the shock companies out of the game, and bring in a claimer rule!
            Claimer rules don't work...never have, never will.
            Shocks are a drop in the bucket compared to the cost of the motors these days. The people screaming for shock rules are people that don't understand how to make shocks work. But they'll never want to give up all that power they can't hook up. Sad really but pure ignorance is what is killing this sport. People fear what they don't understand. And by "people" I mean racers AND the non-racer rule-makers.

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            • MasterSbilt_Racer
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 14308

              #36
              Get the bodies back to late 1990s specs. Remove the spoiler. Consider decrease in tire size. Done.

              Move on to cure for cancer.
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              • Josh Bayko
                Senior Member
                • May 2007
                • 8736

                #37
                Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
                Get the bodies back to late 1990s specs. Remove the spoiler. Consider decrease in tire size. Done.

                Move on to cure for cancer.
                They don't even have to go as far back as the late 90's. Just get em back to '05 and take 4" or spoiler off of them.
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                • MI Dirt Fan
                  Banned
                  • May 2007
                  • 8806

                  #38
                  I don't get why so many people are stuck in the 90's. Sure the racing was probably better but face it. It's not coming back. Just like people want Nascar to race at North Wilksboro again. It's not going to happen people.

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                  • MasterSbilt_Racer
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 14308

                    #39
                    Originally posted by MI Dirt Fan View Post
                    I don't get why so many people are stuck in the 90's. Sure the racing was probably better but face it. It's not coming back. Just like people want Nascar to race at North Wilksboro again. It's not going to happen people.
                    I am not stuck in the 90s. It was a much better body as far as downforce goes. And it was pre MD3 noses.
                    Last edited by MasterSbilt_Racer; 08-30-2018, 12:08 PM.
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                    • MasterSbilt_Racer
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2007
                      • 14308

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Josh Bayko View Post
                      They don't even have to go as far back as the late 90's. Just get em back to '05 and take 4" or spoiler off of them.
                      True. But, we might as well fix it with a big hammer cause the cars will creep back this way again. We need a wedge car to UMP car type enema for the sport.
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                      • MI Dirt Fan
                        Banned
                        • May 2007
                        • 8806

                        #41
                        Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
                        I am not stuck in the 90s. It was a much better body as far as downforce goes.
                        Never singled you out based on your comment.

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                        • ride height
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2012
                          • 612

                          #42
                          I’m usually on the side of..” The Whole thing is out of control”..however I guess if you’re honest about it..this is major league late models...it’s not FOR everybody.. it’s for the best. I was pretty bad ass baseball player in my day, but I didn’t make MLB..no way. it was over my head. Like the weekly local racing hero...it’s over his head. I stand by my previous statement.. the big boy late models will end up being maybe 30 ( big league teams. The elite...talent..AND money. The horses are out of the barn...you ain’t getting them back in...it’s over as far as technology/ money....it always wins

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                          • MasterSbilt_Racer
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2007
                            • 14308

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Austin34471 View Post
                            Everything Jay said is true.. everyone and their mother agrees with 100% of what he said. The issue is, everyone already knows this! Acknowledging that there is a problem without providing any ideas on how to fix said problem doesn't fix anything!

                            And that's the biggest problem.. no one knows how to fix it. The second biggest problem is: if someone did know how to fix it, 3/4 of the sport would whine at him/her until they gave up because no one agrees on anything. We will ride it out for another 5-10 years until it dies completely then find something else to do
                            I think there are multiple valid paths to fixing it. The problem is the will to do it and a consensus.
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                            • MasterSbilt_Racer
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2007
                              • 14308

                              #44
                              Ride height,

                              Your view is fine if WoO and Lucas do their own things and all the other late models do something else. Right now, it isn't that way.
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                              • dirty-white-boy
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2007
                                • 996

                                #45
                                Didnt Vic Hill just have story about the cost of racing and now another engine builder is talking about costs...all the while charging as much as they possibly can to the racers.

                                Jay did not offer any solutions. It was nothing more than just words. Reminded me of Washington DC. Alot of hot air about subjects we already know about.

                                Be a game changer, be the change.

                                Be Tesla, be Uber, be AirBnB. Be the company/person that changes an industry.

                                Maybe Cody has something up his "Million" dollar sleeve?

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